What to do when the big war hits?
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Alright, It doesn't sound like you're trying to defend the source any more so I'll let you off with a warning this time. :1bluewinky:
Yeah agreed... I still just can't see Stalin preparing 7k bunkers against it yet though... That's a lot of dough for some theoretical science at that point... And these things take time... Not until WWII did anyone know how big the boom would actually be.
Alright, fair enough, the worldwide all-big-government arms race was in full grab-yo-nearest-scientists-and-get-busy mode. No contest on that point.
It's cool bro. :drinkup:
You are the most annoying and moronic poster at wickedfire. I can't understand why you haven't been banned yet.
See, this type of thinking I don't understand. What do you mean civil war? If you really believe the US could descend into civil war, you're delusional.
How do you guys view a civil war playing out? The fine residents of LA are going to go on the offensive against a carrier group that was deployed on the coast? Or that 800 man militia in Maine is going to go up against a US battalion comprising of extremely well trained, well armed soldiers using the best technology, tanks, helicopter gunships, fighter jets, etc.?
Sure there might be some defections, but probably not enough to even cause a blip. If civil war like that broke out, it'd be New Orleans after Katrina on a much larger scale. In general, soldiers and law enforcement are well trained, obedient, upstanding, respectful citizens, and they're not going to side with thugs rioting.
I'll stick with my position. It's all a facade, designed to compartmentalize our minds using fear, so we're too scared to look up, see what's actually going on, and group together. All the while, you have the people who really run things (bankers, defense contractors, oil companies, etc.) are laughing their asses off, while stripping away and consolidating the wealth.
Look at the bank bailouts. That's going to go down in the history books as the largest heist ever in the US. And now look, they're coming for your social security and medicare. And you know what? They're going to get it. More for them, less for 99.5% of the population. The right wing guys who constantly preach about the free market should be thrilled with this though, because after all, this is capitalism at its finest.
Free Market?
How many planks of Marx/Musulini do we need to fulfill here?
Bloated Entitlement State
State Mandated Healthcare
Bailed Out Mega Commercial/Investment Banks
Interest Rates Decided By Government Printing Press Controllers and Not Those That Foot the Bill (Free Money is not Free Market)
Endless Corporate Welfare
Federally Owned Mortgage Market
Sounds more like the mob democracy the Fore Fathers warned us about.
Civil War not possible? Why not? Because it hasn't happened in your lifetime? Well, get ready. You are about to witness the greatest depression. This country has been torn apart before. The producers are tired of footing the bill for the leeches on the top and the bottom. The top want us all to stop living our middle class lifestyles...while they scapegoat us with their class warfare and feed us to the poor ...who will experience mega austerity 3rd world style.
Think thats far fetched? Stay tuned.
Down here in the south there are a lot of hard working self made people who have no comfy state pensions, are constantly scapegoated and called ignorant racists for not trusting the central authority, and they have plenty of ammo and they keep it dry.
There are a lot of people all over the US that feel like its their duty to resist Canadian/European socialism (serfdom) with their last dying breath. God bless them.
So you really believe the fine folks in the south are going to go up against the US military & law enforcement? Have fun with that. If you expect to win any support, better get your PHSYOPS teams in place quickly, because you're about 60 years behind.
I'm glad to see no one gives a fuck about the increasing prices of food and fuel, nobody cares that Europe and the euro are collapsing (the dollar is next).
Is it a war that you guys fear the most? Shouldn't it be hunger and the fact that if you aren't able to hunt, cultivate, fish or whatever you do to survive, you'll die?
Things never been better right? Try living in a fucking country that has been taken over by the IMF, you would soon change your minds.
Is it a war that you guys fear the most? Shouldn't it be hunger and the fact that if you aren't able to hunt, cultivate, fish or whatever you do to survive, you'll die?
Things never been better right? Try living in a fucking country that has been taken over by the IMF, you would soon change your minds.
If you think that the US Military likes serving under the current leadership, you must be Canadian. Look up who they overwhelmingly give their money to, Ron Paul who basically says we need a revolution...or restoration.
the fine folks of the south ARE the US military.
you assume a lot of cohesion during much coming tumult...i wish i had your crystal ball. i see many opportunities for partial to complete societal collapse.
People in the US riot over basketball games bro. Wait until they can't eat. Wait until we get slammed with IMF austerity or some shit and whole states leave the union all over again. Its already being talked about. You really think thats going to die down when milk costs 20 bucks and they want another 20% of your income?
Again....stay tuned.
You might not think the American People are a threat to the over-reaching Feds....but the Feds are obsessed with controlling us and taking preventative steps to keep us at bay. If you don't see that, now I know you are in Canada.
Give us a few years xpath. They are saving their prize workhorse for last. But we are on the chopping block as well.
After Katrina law enforcement went house to house gathering up weapons. Many never got their guns back. Federal law was even changed after to make sure something like that doesn't happen again.
Interesting to see the familiar names who were on the losing end of the 84-16 Senate vote. All Democrats, most of whom are outspoken against the 2nd, and a few who have admitted to having weapons carry permits of their own...even though they don't believe in the same freedoms for their constituents.
You're a bit mistaken about anything in general. I know enough former soldiers and law enforcement to know they are regular people. Most of them are good, some of them are indifferent, and a few are psychopaths who got into these professions because of the control they are allowed to exert over others or because they couldn't live within the normal social structure.
The psychopaths and indifferent ones will follow orders after a collapse and take advantage where they can, but the rest will have to make a choice. I don't believe it's as clear-cut as you seem to think.
It's good you used Katrina in your argument, though. Here's another example of how those fine upstanding officers sworn to protect us behave after a disaster.
why is it that those who argue and debate the most about dramatic 'end of days' type scenarios are usually the ones where an 'end of days' scenario would be arguably a life upgrade?
While you're planning for that don't forget to plan for the much larger possibility - that nothing happens, so you know, invest and save money and take care of your body instead of arming yourself to the teeth for a 0.1% type scenario.
Or don't, and continue the lulz.
While you're planning for that don't forget to plan for the much larger possibility - that nothing happens, so you know, invest and save money and take care of your body instead of arming yourself to the teeth for a 0.1% type scenario.
Or don't, and continue the lulz.
lol. that is true. maybe its about being outside looking in.
i have a friend who was making a killing during the subprime crisis and went bankrupt and got into survivalism. he got me into it too. there are a lot of intelligent people with a lot of money that are "getting ready" for worse times. now that he is doing better again he's like "just a few more years, stock market"
i would say its probably a nice curve from people that are kind of destitute outcasts are paranoid about disruption.....middle class fat and happy.....and a lot of rich people are paranoid about the same.
ever seen the Walton Family's underground lair? biggest super walmart ever.
i have a friend who was making a killing during the subprime crisis and went bankrupt and got into survivalism. he got me into it too. there are a lot of intelligent people with a lot of money that are "getting ready" for worse times. now that he is doing better again he's like "just a few more years, stock market"
i would say its probably a nice curve from people that are kind of destitute outcasts are paranoid about disruption.....middle class fat and happy.....and a lot of rich people are paranoid about the same.
ever seen the Walton Family's underground lair? biggest super walmart ever.
No I haven't seen their lair, but Ive seen friends lose their primary mode of transport after losing their job and not being able to make their entry level luxury car lease payment.
I checked out that Y2K link from earlier in the thread, tons of idiots talking about fully cashing out 401ks to "prepare". That certainly was a great move.
I checked out that Y2K link from earlier in the thread, tons of idiots talking about fully cashing out 401ks to "prepare". That certainly was a great move.
Sonny, Actually the guys that did cash out their 401k's did quite well, since shortly thereafter the market took quite a hit.... Especially the folks that bought Gold with their savings. Being prudent, preparing against a potential threat is not necessary a 'idiot' thing to do. Folks buy insurance for all kinds of things...
There was a 20% chance that something would happen during Y2K. If those folks decided to buy 'insurance' with cashing out their 401k's I would not call them idiots.
Most important thing in a crisis is to keep your SA (Situational Aweseness) high and keep calm...
There was a 20% chance that something would happen during Y2K. If those folks decided to buy 'insurance' with cashing out their 401k's I would not call them idiots.
Most important thing in a crisis is to keep your SA (Situational Aweseness) high and keep calm...
ill drive a stolen car into a guns shop, assuming i dont get shot by the owner or if it is deserted. ill steal all the guns and ammo i can. go and and steal food using the guns that i stole. or loot the local mall. barricade my house "save" a few hot women let then stay with me, shoot anyone who tries to come in (exept maybe people i know). wait till everyone on earth is dead, and declare my self king of the world.
I love it when people talk about China invading the US. It's a history, military, economics and poli-sci fail wrapped into one statement.
posted by Flash4Evel:
No way man; that's old shit. I remember circa 2001 a friend of mine who got completely wrapped up in that stupidity after reading [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Blindsided-Planet-Passes-2003-Earthchanges/dp/1931743401]this[/ame] book. The original "calculations" called for Niburu/Planet X/Nemesis/wtfe to pass in 2003.
Frank
posted by Flash4Evel:
No way man; that's old shit. I remember circa 2001 a friend of mine who got completely wrapped up in that stupidity after reading [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Blindsided-Planet-Passes-2003-Earthchanges/dp/1931743401]this[/ame] book. The original "calculations" called for Niburu/Planet X/Nemesis/wtfe to pass in 2003.
Frank
It's really the new trend, man. I don't care anything about that shit but when I scrape web2.0 assets I am getting so much about the comet Elenin coming in October. Of course someone has found a good opportunity to scam faggots rehashing Elenin with Nemesis
Sorry I skipped over much what you said, I don't get serious in this type of thread but that made me LOL
history is written by the winners and those in charge according to how they say it happened
before the digital age anyways, with all the information sharing these days its hard to keep anything quiet unless you have a really long reach
^^This
Interesting thread. Living in a rural area of a developing country (Thailand) it's easy to see how to survive if all infrastructure collapses just by watching the villagers. They all have cell phones and satellite TV but their baseline living is still much the same as when they didn't even have electricity. They have rain water catchment, take a shower without running water using a bucket, farm their own food and sell surplus at the local farmers market, crack some of their home grown eggs or slaughter a chicken or pull a fish from their pond for dinner, cook with homemade charcoal. When the power goes out (almost weekly during stormy season) they just have the minor inconvenience that they can't watch their favorite soap opera. Nothing much around here to bomb or reason to invade. Would need to defend against roving gangs, and lack of medical care if seriously hurt would be a concern. People in the cities, on the other hand, would be seriously screwed.