Are you into tactical knives ,weaponry, swords, hunting etc? better buy your shit NOW

I was in school in the 1970's and 80's. Most everyone carried a Buck, Old Timer, or Schrade knife. Either a folder or fixed blade in a leather sheath attached to our belt in plain view for everyone to see. We used them for opening our Skoal/Copenhagen cans, sharpening pencils, playing stretch with them, and cleaning our fingernails mostly while at school. I can't recall any violent incidents involving a knife.

They served a higher purpose when we went hunting after the last bell. Being in Florida at that time we also kept hatchets, axes, and machetes in our trucks. It was helpful to have a plain ole' Mattock/Pick Axe handle in the truck. Stronger than a baseball bat and cheaper.

Most everyone over 16 also had a shotgun and a rifle in the rack in the cab of the truck. No one was ever shot either.

They do make Ice Picks that just look like a wooden stick. Kind of tough to patch up 10 well placed 6 inch deep holes in a body. Hell, a nice heavy steel bodied fountain pen makes a good close quarter weapon as well.

Carry a damn Flare Gun. It's a "Safety Device" until used otherwise.

I'm a 3rd generation Marine and have been taught self defense since I was 6 years old. Anything can be a weapon, you'd be surprised at what a credit card can do to human flesh. Is Obama going to outlaw Credit Cards too?

Growing up, every gun in the house was loaded with a round chambered ready to go. Only the safety was on. That way EVERYONE knew NOT to play around with them since they were loaded. Plus we all had been using guns since we were pre-teens and understood their capabilities and the consequences of using a gun. By having access and guidance it took away any novelty or curiosity surrounding the weapons.

If humans don't have guns and knives, they'll just use anything handy to carry out their malevolent intentions.

My Sig P229 has deterred several would be aggressors without me having to fire a shot. I have a permit to conceal it which would be a felony without it, but if it is visible it is a misdemeanor. A disturbing the peace charge and they can confiscate my weapon based on that but not for it being concealed since I have a permit for the more serious offense. Retarded if you ask me since 3 of the four times that I've had to draw down on someone it could have been avoided all together if they had known I was armed in the first place.

As was said above, "An armed society is a POLITE society." Once law abiding citizens are denied access to the tools needed to deter criminals, the criminals then control the society.
 


No, it's the criminal that may try to rob my ass that is alien to the general Australian ethos.

I have never been robbed or had anyone try to rob me, god help the fucker that tries though.

Fuck the police man, they only give a shit once something happens and they aren't always there now are they?

I don't have a cop or security guard with me 24/7 do you?


As I was once told, "It's better to be alive and in jail waiting for someone to decide your fate than to be dead and the only decision left for you is to be buried or cremated!!"


To anyone who has a notion that the desire/need to carry a weapon is a NEW phenomenon in human history obviously has not studied human history with any due diligence.
 
i carried a knife throughout high school, every fucking day. that was through columbine and 9/11. sorry if im the least trusting person in the planet i didnt flaunt it in school, but i made it known outside of school that i had a knife on me.

everyone out of the 400 i graduated with is pretty much my friends now that ive graduated
 
You are either a very sheltered person or you just arrived to our country, in that case welcome, please enjoy your stay.
lol.. "just arrived", "sheltered"...if only you knew how clueless that remark was.
Anyway, you keep walking around in fear, because that's what it really boils down to. Fear for your life, for your property. Enjoy it.
End of comments from me, as you know what they say about winning an argument on the 'net.
 
I walk around prepared, there's a difference.
Bingo.

One doesn't have to be armed, but to remove the choice is the road to serfdom.

Whoever linked to that axe up thread, that is a nice piece of equipment for $40. A+++
 
Bingo.

One doesn't have to be armed, but to remove the choice is the road to serfdom.

Whoever linked to that axe up thread, that is a nice piece of equipment for $40. A+++

Yeah the Sog Fusion Tomahawk, I ordered 4 lol.

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Love it.
 
lol.. "just arrived", "sheltered"...if only you knew how clueless that remark was.
Anyway, you keep walking around in fear, because that's what it really boils down to. Fear for your life, for your property. Enjoy it.
End of comments from me, as you know what they say about winning an argument on the 'net.

Maybe you live in a rosy little neighborhood where you can hold this attitude and not have a chance for natural selection to weed you out, but it's not the case for everyone, and saying someone is fearful for preparing themselves is like saying someone wears condoms because they're afraid of STD's, it's not a fear driven choice - it's common sense.
 
Anyway, you keep walking around in fear, because that's what it really boils down to. Fear for your life, for your property. Enjoy it.

It has nothing to do with fear.

It's not about living in fear, it's about living with confidence knowing that you're prepared to deal with any situation that might arise.

You learn how to swim so you don't drown when you fall in the water right?

You keep a fire extinguisher in the kitchen so you don't burn your house down. You keep anti virus software on your computer so it keeps running properly. As someone said above, you wear a condom so you don't catch cooties from dirty birds.

These things give you confidence knowing that you and your loved one's lives are that much safer for having taken proactive measures.

Now extrapolate all these preparedness scenarios across all other situations. Doesn't it then make perfect sense then to arm yourself? What would happen to you if someone walked into McDonalds or the gas station while you were there and started killing people? Are you gonna be the guy down on his knees with a gun to the back of your head waiting to be executed? Or are you going to at least try to defend yourself?

It's certainly an unlikely situation but I know a lot of people that aren't going to leave it down to dumb luck not to find themselves there at some point.

End of comments from me, as you know what they say about winning an argument on the 'net.

That's unfortunate, but I guess when you haven't got an argument there's not much more to say.
 
Sticks: Seriously dude, chill out. As it is, knives are pretty restricted here unless you live in a territory anyway. Other than one good rugged survival knife, and a good pocket knife, what are you really needing that shit for? If you have to have, join a fencing a club, and you'll get the license as well as some good exercise. I've got a couple nice pieces still.
As for fights though, if someone draws a knife on you, you're actually much better protected by wearing a nice fashionable pair of steel capped boots, and I say this from experience.
You're less likely to be in trouble for using them defensively ("Honestly officer, I'd just been doing heavy lifting that morning... I had no expectation I'd need to defend myself this evening, and I'm sorry I cracked 5 of his ribs... but he had a knife!"). You've also got a hell of a lot more range with a solid kick than a slash, and people are more likely to try to soak a kick when they're armed because they don't expect blocking it to shatter their shin/hip/arm/etc.
Personal experience bit: Working the Bottle'O in Bris after highschool, I had some guy try to hold me up for the keys to the store. I just went in with a kick to the shin, and the moron tried to block. A sound like breaking a solid tree branch, and he went down like a sack of potatoes with the most surprised look I've ever seen on a guy.
That's one of 3 times I've ever had someone try shit on with me, and I hang out in bad areas... Violent personal crime, perpetrated by people uknown to the victim, is really uncommon here man.

Don't get me wrong. I love cool knives, and have a bunch of memorabilia ones, a few swords from highschool fencing, and a few from WW2 courtesy of family wills... but they're really impractical for a fight without serious training, and if you are much more likely to die from wounds sustained in a knife fight than a gun shot.

Sandnsurf: Bullshit... Knives were in highschools when I was there a decade ago. People getting cut up in blue light nightclubs wasn't uncommon.
It ain't recent, it's just more public thanks to a bunch of stupid wogs pulling them in public.
But I agree with you. This sensation that people need to be armed is pretty much due to all the FUD from news. It's making every one fall for this bullshit "mean world syndrome"
 
and saying someone is fearful for preparing themselves is like saying someone wears condoms because they're afraid of STD's, it's not a fear driven choice - it's common sense.


I'm pretty middle of the line in the gun debate however I don't really see any conceivable analogy between a between a condom and a handgun.

EDIT: Let me clarify, I see the point you were trying to make I just don't think it was an adequate analogy as condoms are pretty pacifistic by nature and a handgun being about as unpacifistic as you can get. Also even if the analogy holds, using a condom IS driven by fear (Common sense not withstanding). You have a fear of catching an STD which is exactly WHY you use a condom. Again, not arguing the gunpoint here just arguing the argument.
 
I'm pretty middle of the line in the gun debate however I don't really see any conceivable analogy between a between a condom and a handgun.

EDIT: Let me clarify, I see the point you were trying to make I just don't think it was an adequate analogy as condoms are pretty pacifistic by nature and a handgun being about as unpacifistic as you can get. Also even if the analogy holds, using a condom IS driven by fear (Common sense not withstanding). You have a fear of catching an STD which is exactly WHY you use a condom. Again, not arguing the gunpoint here just arguing the argument.

Guns are pacifist given the right circumstances, they protect you against something that have a very slim chance of happening (STD/Circumstance in which gun saves someone) but if you didn't have the option you'd always be leaving yourself open to that which can hurt you. I'm not saying let everyone carry guns, but I am saying let people who are let's say, over 30+ with no history of violence, clean record, proper gun courses etc..

It can be a fear driven decision just like condoms also, if a man lives in a bad neighborhood and has a family to protect - he gets a gun for fear that he won't be able to protect them if the need arises.
 
Turbo, what about pepper spray or a taser?


What about them? Again, I wasn't really arguing the gun issue. Just the way the argument was presented. Or are you asking if it would have been better to drawn an analogy to pepper spray or a taser?
 
What about them? Again, I wasn't really arguing the gun issue. Just the way the argument was presented. Or are you asking if it would have been better to drawn an analogy to pepper spray or a taser?
No. I was asking if you feel the same way about pepper spray and tasers as you do about guns.

Pacifism to me means non-violence. But I got the impression you were using it to mean, non-lethal force.

I was trying to understand where you were coming from.
 
Scream my ass off. Having a knife/gun/whatever is probably useless because I wouldn't get it out in time. And statistically, people are more likely to injure themselves when owning deadly weapons. People for the most part are hurt and murdered by those closest to them. Didja know?

There are things you can do to reduce the likelihood of being a statistic. For one thing, don't flash money and don't wear expensive clothing and jewelery. It works for me. The rest is dumb luck.

no, statistically, untrained people are more likely to injure themselves when owning a weapon. not only that, but your "People for the most part are hurt and murdered by those closest to them" statement has nothing to do with weaponry at all. if someone is hell bent on killing someone, they will do it one way or another.

screaming your head off when you're being held at gun or knife-point is more likely to get you shot or stabbed, because then the person holding you up is going to panic and try to get you to shut up, so you're making your chances even worse.
 
In my opinion guns need to be regulated better as far as when purchasing the guns they need to close the gunshow loophole and do better background checks. If they would do those two things then not so many wackos would be getting guns and hurting the rights of responsible gun owners such as myself.