Are you losing rankings as well?

It can't been ALN. I've got loads of sites hammered with ALN and they are fine.

The one site of mine that has been hit had been massed bookmarked (nothing else at all, only bookmarks). But I don't think it's that either as I've mass bookmarked other sites and they are just fine.

So I'm thinking it's either onpage stuff or too many of just one type of backlink?

I'm testing this LY2 - I'm the web 2.0 dog snuggie culprit. BlogDrive is at number 53 and about 24 hours ago I bookmarked the shit out of it. It still hasn't moved but let's watch and see.
 


ly2 - tried messaging you on here but doesnt seem to be going through. Added on Skype too - fancy comparing notes?
 
Anyone considered it being SBM? My sites that were ranking after a SBM blast have slipped slightly, nothing dramatic though.
 
It can't been ALN. I've got loads of sites hammered with ALN and they are fine.

The one site of mine that has been hit had been massed bookmarked (nothing else at all, only bookmarks). But I don't think it's that either as I've mass bookmarked other sites and they are just fine.

So I'm thinking it's either onpage stuff or too many of just one type of backlink?

I'm testing this LY2 - I'm the web 2.0 dog snuggie culprit. BlogDrive is at number 53 and about 24 hours ago I bookmarked the shit out of it. It still hasn't moved but let's watch and see.

I dont think its link type diversity - 15 months old site with XXX indexed pages (original) 40k links from a variety of different sources built gradually got hit. Grrrr!

The thing Im thinking is anchor diversity or perhaps a cull on sites that are using spammy links. Then again shit loads of people with spammy link seem unaffected.
 
Yeah i will also start testing different links with different sites to see if anything gets it moving back up.. I think my link velocity and not enough anchor variations could have been a factor..

Looks like G made some changes that detect these things better, because the sites that were penalized got all hit in a day or 2..
 
wouldn't it be smart to split-test your SE0 methods on a bunch of throw-away sites instead of playing this guessing game every time your sites get hit?
 
Well i think that links still need to be built in the meantime or it will look even more weird.. I will also be adding bigger anchor diversity to the mix to see if that can get some results and what effects it will have..

I doubt you can link build your way out of it. Don't forget there is a chance this shit will blow over.
 
wayn3 go sig whoring somewhere else. This thread is do discuss ranking changes and how to fix them. If you did any testing then give us the results, saying ALN is the shit doesn't mean jack shit to me.. I am using ALN on almost all of my sites but still many of the got hit..

Maybe share what you are doing then? You guys start those threads and the only thing you share is some generic ways of link building. If you are high on "google wants to see natural link building" why even bother doing wikilinks? How many real sites have wikilinks? Its easy to devalue or even penalize because its the opposite of natural.

I dont do much testing. The only thing I do to sites is social bookmarks and ALN with non-scraped content. It works. I dont see any negative effect over the last couple months (mid october). Neither long nor short term.

Ive experimented with some stuff on EMDs provided by secretagentdad, so that its easy to see impact. The results are that web2.0s dont do shit. Wikilinks dont do shit. All those conventional things that were exploits at some point in time didnt have any kind of impact.

Ive tested different kinds of content quality. The results from that are that with shitty content, the sites didnt move to page 1. Once content was changed on those with shitty content, they move to page 1 on that change alone.

Ive tested doing aln before getting some social bookmarks in. The results were that the didnt move. Others that had their bookmarks moved to page 1 just like they were supposed to. The ones that had aln but no bookmarks moved to page 1 after getting bookmarks as if the order of the links were the other way around.

In my opinion, timeline doesnt matter. The only things that matter, according to my theory, are that you have to have enough linkpower, however linkpower could be defined, and enough trust to sustain the linkpower.

Ive experimented with different amounts of ALN links. Sometimes, after the blast is over, the site drops back to where it was. That correlates roughly to "not enough links". Once its received enough aln links, it keeps its rankings after the aln articles fall off the blogs homepages.

I have my data and im sharing more of it than you are ever willing to. Doesnt even matter because 2 months from now, the game will be vastly different again and those who dont read between the lines will never see the underlying principles. Right now, ALN is the shit.


My attention wasnt even to display the sig. I do, however, offer the service because I believe in it and its worked well so far for every customer.
 
Did a 1k social bookmarking package with a 9 anchors a few days ago and all rankings went to shit.. From being in the top10 to not being in the top 1k anymore. I just noticed this!
 
As i mentioned in my previous post, i just did a check with social bookmarks and that was not very successful from the results.

As for ALN, i used a service from here on a site that was at around position 10, it got up to number 8 and now it has vanished from the top 1000..

Wikis i just add to the bunch to have nofollow links as well, since blog posts have mostly dofollow links from the networks and also to get links from different sources..

As for my sig whoring comment, that is how it looked like.. If you would post like you did now, i would never have made that comment in the first place..

Maybe share what you are doing then? You guys start those threads and the only thing you share is some generic ways of link building. If you are high on "google wants to see natural link building" why even bother doing wikilinks? How many real sites have wikilinks? Its easy to devalue or even penalize because its the opposite of natural.

I dont do much testing. The only thing I do to sites is social bookmarks and ALN with non-scraped content. It works. I dont see any negative effect over the last couple months (mid october). Neither long nor short term.

Ive experimented with some stuff on EMDs provided by secretagentdad, so that its easy to see impact. The results are that web2.0s dont do shit. Wikilinks dont do shit. All those conventional things that were exploits at some point in time didnt have any kind of impact.

Ive tested different kinds of content quality. The results from that are that with shitty content, the sites didnt move to page 1. Once content was changed on those with shitty content, they move to page 1 on that change alone.

Ive tested doing aln before getting some social bookmarks in. The results were that the didnt move. Others that had their bookmarks moved to page 1 just like they were supposed to. The ones that had aln but no bookmarks moved to page 1 after getting bookmarks as if the order of the links were the other way around.

In my opinion, timeline doesnt matter. The only things that matter, according to my theory, are that you have to have enough linkpower, however linkpower could be defined, and enough trust to sustain the linkpower.

Ive experimented with different amounts of ALN links. Sometimes, after the blast is over, the site drops back to where it was. That correlates roughly to "not enough links". Once its received enough aln links, it keeps its rankings after the aln articles fall off the blogs homepages.

I have my data and im sharing more of it than you are ever willing to. Doesnt even matter because 2 months from now, the game will be vastly different again and those who dont read between the lines will never see the underlying principles. Right now, ALN is the shit.


My attention wasnt even to display the sig. I do, however, offer the service because I believe in it and its worked well so far for every customer.
 
a noob going to run a site, i am working for stuff relevant to support it, making hope i will be able to get traffic as the content the pure and original and its in best shape, wish me luck guys :stonedsmilie:

Not sure what you're getting at, but you have my blessings.
 
Another common theme among my sites that have been hit (anything that was actually making any money!) is that there aren't many links going to inner pages. Anyone else that's been hit got the same problem?
 
Yeah i was mostly doing backlinks to the homepage.. I see this also as a common thing between the dropped sites.
 
I doubt you can link build your way out of it. Don't forget there is a chance this shit will blow over.

What makes you think link building isnt going to help sort things out. Also, if shit is going to blow over, how long do you think it will take?

This has never happened to me in 4 years so don't know how to deal with it!
 
Today I submitted 2 spins in 5 major blog networks, was targeting just two keywords. After 6 hours I lost all rankings on that keywords.

In my opinion Google penalizes sites for promoting with spun content & blog networks.
 
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