Best take on Israel and Palestine bullshit
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That is pathetic. If you cant see how fucked up that is, you are either an idiot or an anti-semite. Possibly both.
United Nations Human Rights Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Is this UN Human Rights Council that you speak of legit? Lets investigate further...
The UN appointed a self hating terrorist supporter as an independent expert for the UNHRC to look into the "situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories.."
One would assume that the PA, would have his back since he only reports on Israels human rights record..
But....
If that didnt make you laugh at the "UN Human Rights Council" maybe this will...
“Inviting a Hamas terrorist to lecture to the world about human rights is like asking Charles Manson to run the murder investigation unit at the NYPD”
Human Rights Council my left fucking nut. You guys scare the shit out of me................
Ha, I wasn't the one who brought up the topic of "legal rights" as a justification for what a "nation" can or cannot do.
If you think the UN has "bad" laws and such, then you are contributing to part of my point. Just because the UN, Israel, or an Intergalactic Council have a piece of paper saying that one group is allowed to do something, doesn't necessarily make it right to do so.
If someone supports the concept of "majority rules" only when they agree with the majority, then they don't really support that concept to begin with.
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born and raise in israel
the jews in Hebron are really crazy, they can live with the arabs as much as they want, we as a country dont need to be there
born and raise in israel
the jews in Hebron are really crazy, they can live with the arabs as much as they want, we as a country dont need to be there
Check your facts. I would have thought better of you. Many "Palestinian Refugees" who were "displaced" went back to the countries they came from - Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, etc by choice after 1948...
Islam hasn't even been around for 2000 years. Maybe Mustarabim you meant? Muslim Arabs in Israel, less than 1400 years ago. Next time you throw numbers with a 25% margin of error, check the facts first. Nearly 2000 years ago Israel was ruled by Israelite (Jewish) Kings appointed by the Romans.
Still during the bulk of the "2000" years you speak about the land was barren, and the population was scarce. Mark Twain visited Jerusalem in 1867 and wrote in his memoirs about his visit to the "holy land":
When the British controlled the land, the local economy grew, and when Jews started to come back to Israel in the late 1800's/early 1900's with European money, the economy grew further until Palestine had higher per capital income than Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Iraq by the 1930's. And when the Arabs in Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Iraq realized that they can make more money in British controlled Palestine, they came for money.
The Smoking Gun: Arab Immigration into Palestine, 1922-1931 :: Middle East Quarterly
The "Palestinians have roots in the land" argument is pure BS. Many of them came after Jews returned from the corners of the world.
Its called self-defense. Unfortunately the persistence of the Jewish people gets tried in almost every generation, this time its by people who want to kill me and my family because we are Jews (or is that every time). So instead I decided to arm myself with a Desert Eagle since I would like to be a grandfather some day. You catch my drift? Probably not....So
If you want to play chicken and the egg, than lets go back to BEFORE Jews had guns. Lets go back to when the British had the guns, and the Jews were still nobodies, years before they were slaughtered by the millions...
1929
Arabs Massacre Jews in Hebron - 1929 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Arabs Massacre Jews in Safed - 1929 Safed pogrom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
All because Jews came into Palestine LEGALLY and purchased land of Arabs LEGALLY. And lets not even begin about the Jewish claim to the land.............
-Charles Krauthammer – The Weekly Standard, May 11, 1998
Hebron is a microcosm of this entire conflict. A small island of Jews surrounded by a large sea of Arabs. Substitute "Israel" for "Hebron" and you sound just like Israel haters and Arabs do. If you don't share the same ideology, that may be fine, but you should at least understand the strategic significance of having a strong military presence in that area. Remove the army from Hebron and Jerusalem will be raining rockets. Wake the fuck up.
So what?
The UN is also calling for a global billionaire tax. Does that mean UN members who oppose the idea have to quit the UN?
The job of the UN is not to promote the political and security interests of Israel, it's to appease all its members. It's a strategically convenient group to be a part of but not everything it says and does is agreeable.
You gotta be sensible here. Face the facts- Palestinians are interested in nothing but the genocide of the Israeli people. They are not satisfied with full control of Gaza and West Bank.
They want to wipe the entire country off the map, and they are willing to kill their own women and children to get their way.
That's a fucked up mindset and there's no getting around that.
The solution to all this is clear. Palestinians have to stop the terrorist attacks.
Israel has no excuse if the Palestinians pose no threat. In fact, if the Palestinians pose no threat and Israel causes deliberate harm, they should have sanctions placed on them.
Morals are a luxury of people who are not directly in danger. Someone is bombing you? You do whatever you can to stop it. Negotiation, retaliation, incineration, whatever works. Anything else is delusional.
Would you kill someone who was directly threatening your family? If you say no, you may not want your genes to survive? WTF?
Survival instinct.
Would you kill someone who was directly threatening your family? If you say no, you may not want your genes to survive? WTF?
Survival instinct.
If a violent lunatic lived down the road from you, would you use your Desert Eagle to prevent the Red Cross from delivering supplies to his family?
Not all Palestinians are extremists. Does the doctor in the video below seem like he wants to destroy all Israelis? Even if all of them were extreme, that doesn't mean that the best course of action is to do things that can potentially stir them up into an even bigger frenzy.
Again, 20% of Israelis are Arabs and the majority of them consider themselves to be "Palestinian citizens of Israel." Some of them follow the Jewish faith and nearly 10% are Christian.
8% of Palestinians in the West Bank are Christian. If everyone in the West Bank is a terrorist, then nearly 1 in 10 of them walking down the street are followers of Lord Jesus.
Palestinian Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Israel doesn't legally recognize interfaith marriages, but depending on what estimates you look at, 10 to 20 percent of those who consider themselves to be married are "mixed" couples.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7XtT91yO6g]Is Peace Out Of Reach? - YouTube[/ame]
There have been cease fire periods, but I don't believe any of them caused Israel to stop building settlements or to want to allow Palestinians to have their own state.
People on both sides have been in danger and the survival strategy for many of them is to leave the other side alone. "An eye for an eye makes the world blind.."
The majority of Israelis want to allow two states and its not just because they want to feel warm and fuzzy inside, but because their "survival instinct" tells them that will lead to less attacks upon themselves.
If things as so black and white as you made it out to be then it would have been solved years ago you idiot. Saying one side just protecting it self while the other side is terrorist shows your fucking brainwashed head at work. You do well to listen and learn from some of the more mature members on this thread.
Granted there are decent Palestinian Arabs. Nothing against them as a people.
But the powers that represent Palestine are extremist lunatics. So what do you do?
Passively accept terrorist attacks against yourself? Concede to their demands of your annihilation? Sit back and let them stockpile weapons??
What's the right course of action when you are dealing with a group that is hell-bent on your destruction and no diplomatic negotiation can shake their will?
The most sensible answer is, after diplomatic negotiations have failed, direct attacks that neutralize the enemy's offensive capabilities while doing your best to avoid civilian casualties.
It's tough though:
My major point would be that things are NOT black and white.
That would be a "black and white" take, but I didn't say that.
A. troll
B. reading comprehension problems
C. mental health issues
D. drunk
E. fapped too much today
Which one are you?
edit : maybe you were replying to mattseh or someone. Either way, GOOD LUCK BRO
This would be a take that is at least a bit more of a "black or white" one. Hamas is not exactly the same as Fatah and if all Palestinian leaders were always extreme as possible, then they wouldn't have offered this :
Israel spurned Palestinian offer of 'biggest Yerushalayim in history' | World news | The Guardian
and Gaza would have killed more than 4 Israelis this year :
Israel and the Palestinians: Gaza abacus | The Economist
Yeah, you're actually one of the mature people I refer to in my post. But then you accused me of fapping too much today, which shows you're probably a psychic too.
I can understand why people like Ar Scion and mattseh etc clinging to their views that one side is bad and the other side is good. Its much simpler that way so when you see people gets obliterated you can always justify it in your head that they deserved it. I was just trying to wake them up is all.