Did I mention I'm too old for this shit now? Why can't I just stay the fuck away??
Out of all the billions of people in the world who have existed and died due to genetic diseases, viruses, bacteria and 'evil', if your god created all these things in the first place then i think its clear who the biggest mass murderer is.
Ouch. That there is some painful medicine... Sure to fall on deaf ears, but felt it was worth a shout out anyway.
I have often wondered how the religious could just sweep all of the evil their god does under the rug without a second thought... I know some can blame it on Satan but the ones who believe in free will, the majority these days, must believe that God created us to live in pain and wanted it that way. So my question is: Is this possible because they have cognitive failure (classic Denial) and choose not to see, or is it something that they recognize on some level and still tell themselves: "Well, the world has lots of great stuff in it too like sugar, love, and alcohol, so overall it's still a net Gain for me."
If the latter, hollywood-induced view is the case, how can they still be so shallow and not weight ALL of mankind's pains versus god instead of just their own?
As someone who spent way too much time on this as well, even reading Spinoza's papers - I believe Einstein was Agnostic or Pantheist, in Pantheism, 'God' is interchangeable with 'Universe'.
+1 for Pantheist. Even in his Maths he seems to see the universe as his god.
Wrong (according to Denzel Washington) Atheists are killers and sociopaths.
Geez Turbo, don't you know that people like Rusky will take this as serious evidence for their side of the argument? Thanks a lot...
Most of the atheists I know in real life don't have enough moral values compared to religious people as they don't fear sin. Let's hypercritically say god does not exist, still religious people are better as they fear to do bad things to some extent at least.
Please tell me this isn't your reasoning behind your religious stance... It's so full of holes that you could use it for a net.
Setting aside the fact that it could easily be argued that religious people have done more evil IN THE NAME of God than atheists have done, it also says terrible things about the underlying drive of a people who are AFRAID OF REPERCUSSION and use that fear as the only reason to have a nice society.
Which nice, quiet, civil society would you rather live in:
A.) One where everyone is afraid that if they step out of line they'll be tortured to death in horrible, unspeakable ways...
B.) One where everyone has been well educated to come to the conclusion that following the Golden Rule is in everyone's best interest.
I'm holding out for B, thanks.
And yes, I know you're going to think that B would be less likely to occur than A because of the unstable element among atheists, but it doesn't make A a nice world nonetheless. Fuck A. It needs to be rebelled against. It should be burned down, every single time.
I'm not the one dividing. Reading through most arguments; atheists assert they're the only beings with reason and understanding of science.
I don't believe you'll find those words anywhere on this thread or any others I've taken part in around here.
You've read too much into our insults & playfulness.
People of any belief can become extremely smart. We'd have to be retarded to say that a Christian can't become good or even advanced at science. Clearly there are many leading scientists with faith of some kind.
We would, however, say that it must make it more difficult for you guys to attain any advanced level of science, especially in the branch of Biology where clearly every drive behind our growth is Evolution. Just like how it would have been hard for a Christian to discover other planets not revolving around Earth back during the inquisition. Religion Sometimes causes roadblocks.
I don't see any atheists around here making blanket statements... Only cause & effect instances. You on the other hand...
