Divorce Laws - Unreasonable?

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I got in the discussion with a lady friend about divorce when the Kobe story came up today. Basically, Kobe's wife is divorcing him due continued cheating, which she should have every right to. Now, they are predicting that Kobe's wife, Vanessa Lane Bryant (who will be keeping his last name as well) will be entitled to approximately 100 million dollars.

My reaction to this was an unequivocal WTF. Kobe didn't sign a prenup, sure, but is that really fair that Vanessa gets half of his sports empire? Where is the legal logic in this?

Fair enough, back in the day men really had no consequences for sleeping around and philandering. This is why now we have laws for paternity and abortion. In the 1800s, a woman who was divorced by her husband often had no education, or a way to make a living, so we devised a system that would prevent a good part of society from becoming homeless after their man left them.

However, this law hasn't changed at all to this day and has since turned into a way to screw men over. I'm not a men's rights activist and tend look down on those that carry that tone of discourse, but this is one area that I can agree on. Why is it that men must subsidize a woman's lifestyle as she lived with the main breadwinner? Shouldn't there be a cap, say a million dollars? Isn't that enough for a woman to survive on her own?

My lady friend's opinion was obviously different. The argument is as follows: marriage is a partnership and Kobe accomplished what he did because of his wife. She took care of the house and the kids while he played basketball. She is entitled to half because the "household" produced it. She also deserves the huge sum because Kobe cheated on her and the money is payment for the humiliation he wrought on her. She invested most of her most important years into Kobe and he just thew it all in the trash. Plus, it's his fault for not having a prenup.

I don't really buy this argument. Sure, Vanessa did most of the housework (oh wait, maids?) and raised the children, but to say she is responsible for even half of the success Kobe had as an athlete is absurd. This isn't really a logical argument so I can't really argue against it. How in the world does Vanessa's "work" in the marriage add up to 100 million?

And just because he cheated on her, that doesn't somehow magically entitle her anything special. Men cheat on women all the time, and vice versa. Sure, it sucks to be lead on for most of your adult life and to realize that the stud athlete you married is screwing young girls on the side, but can you really be surprised? Does that entitle you to damages?

A lot of people have joked that this is Kobe's fault for not getting a prenup. I feel like getting a prenup sets a bad tone for your marriage, because it essentially makes you admit that you don't trust your spouse 100%, which may be quite awkward. It also requires a steady & logical outlook with regards to marriage, which is not all too common when you're in love with someone enough to marry them. With that being said, judges have been known to toss out prenup agreements, so caveat emptor.

I'm not just ranting with regards to the Kobe situation. Many here are in the position or getting to the point where this will become an issue. It's almost impossible to structure your business, especially if you're simply running traffic, to protect yourself from divorce if you don't have a prenup. Make one wrong move with your spouse (or happen to marry a golddigger), and your internet marketing empire will go kaput. For those of you with SEO sites, you will probably have to sell your properties in order to fulfill the settlement.

Any thoughts?

PS: What's with women keeping the last names of their husband & engagement rings + other personal gifts. It strikes me kind of odd when women who have divorced famous men decided to keep the men's last name. The symbolism of you taking a man's last name means you are entering his family and becoming 'his'. What sense does it make to keep it besides trying to stay famous at the expense of the person who you just divorced? Same with engagement rings & other personal gifts: these were supposed to be symbols of commitment and now represent nothing after the divorce, yet you keep em just for the bling?

Blu out.
 


I also forgot to add, the timing of this divorce filing just screams bitterness. Starting the divorce process right at the beginning of basketball season, after the Lakers weren't able to sign Chris Paul?
 
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Fuck the laws. I am separating with my wife right now... May be will divorce later... Average cost of divorce is 20k + a ton of time. I don't have too much equity, but pretty much everything I have I leave. I start from scratch and don't give a fuck. Makes me want to work harder. I have 2 kids and the only thing I state is that she doesnt ask for any $ later. What I have now is at a peasant status, what I will have will make Kobe look like a peasant. Money doesnt mean shit, knowledge and ability to make more matters more.
 
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Holla we want prenup, we want prenup, yeahhhh.

It's something that you need to have, cause when she leave yo ass, she gon' leave with half.

Poor Kobe, I hope this isn't the downfall of his career. First David Stern and now a divorce, not looking too good this year for the Lakes.
 
I was actually just thinking about this earlier, I heard about a woman going after her ex husband for higher alimony payments because he started making more money.. I don't understand how she could have any right to getting extra money due to him making more for actions he performed after their divorce.

In special circumstances I can understand, if one person quits college and works full time to support their spouse so that they could get through med school, then it's understandable. Besides that or a similar situation, fuck it.
 
Anyone familiar with divorce laws in canada. I have a lesbian friend who married someone in canada but isn't a resident there. She wants a divorce but says she has to be a resident of the province to get one. Seems kind of weird to me.
 
I was actually just thinking about this earlier, I heard about a woman going after her ex husband for higher alimony payments because he started making more money.. I don't understand how she could have any right to getting extra money due to him making more for actions he performed after their divorce.

In special circumstances I can understand, if one person quits college and works full time to support their spouse so that they could get through med school, then it's understandable. Besides that or a similar situation, fuck it.

Alimony is bullshit. If there are no kids, then the bitch has no excuse for not working on her career while married. If there are kids, then child support is meant to sustain the lifestyle of the kids. Guys getting fucked over.
 
I didn't read this shit. Yet, why the fuck would you get married? The only thing a guy has to lose is half of what he owns, not that good of a trade off.
 
1. He knew what he was getting into when he got married.

2. She did use her talent to acquire assets just as Kobe used his.

3. Had Kobe not "locked her down" through marriage, she would have been free to use her assets to find another wealthy man. He took her off the market for an agreed upon price when they married.
 
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1. He knew what he was getting into when he got married.

"In November 1999, 21-year-old Bryant met 17-year-old Vanessa Laine"

"The two began dating and became engaged just six months later in May 2000"

"They married on April 18, 2001"

"Reportedly Bryant's parents had problems with him marrying so young, especially to a woman who was not African-American"

He knew what he was getting into my ass.

2. She did use her talent to acquire assets just as Kobe used his.

Get fucked, she was 17/18 and in high school. She had no fucking idea what her talent was, and was still just as fucked up as every other teen girl is at that age.

3. Had Kobe not "locked her down" through marriage, she would have been free to use her assets to find another wealthy man. He took her off the market for an agreed upon price when they married.

He was 21, he locked her down against his families advice because he was inexperienced. The bitch can't expect to marry a famous 21 year old and have him remain faithful to her till the day she dies...
 
"In November 1999, 21-year-old Bryant met 17-year-old Vanessa Laine"



Get fucked, she was 17/18 and in high school. She had no fucking idea what her talent was, and was still just as fucked up as every other teen girl is at that age.

Her talent is her ass and tits... and they are damn fine talents at that. Ass and tits ARE a valuable commodity in our society. In fact, I would argue that her talents are equal to, or surpasses his.. HE DRIBBLES A GOD DAMN BASKETBALL FOR MILLIONS...Lol.. they are both over fucking paid imo.


The bitch can't expect to marry a famous 21 year old and have him remain faithful to her till the day she dies...

and he can't expect to marry a hot young bitch without a prenup, become rich and famous, and not lose half his shit in the event of a divorce. Jesus, use some logic.
 
I remember taking a business law class back in college many years ago and the professor (who had worked as a divorce lawyer previously) told us on the very first day that by far the #1 mistake married men make in this world is to not sign a prenup.

He imprinted into our heads that semester that if you don't sign a prenup you are fucked. I realize it might feel awkward to bring up before a marriage, but the awkwardness of that feeling is much better than your wife taking half when you get divorced.

Plus, we have a great excuse. We HAVE to have a prenup because we run a business and dividing it up after a divorce would be a mess with partners and other business relationships and entities.

Long story short, yea I agree divorce laws are unfair, but if Kobe is upset by this settlement it's his own damn fault.
 
Yep pre-nup is the way to go. If a pre-nup states the wife gets nothing after divorce, that'll get taken to court and she'd get way more than if you signed a fair contract. EG: Family home + 15% or something which seems fair.
 
Does this law still apply in the following cases?
1. You want to divorce your wife because she is sleeping with another man.
2. Your wife wants to divorce you because she wants to marry another man.
 
Does this law still apply in the following cases?
1. You want to divorce your wife because she is sleeping with another man.
2. Your wife wants to divorce you because she wants to marry another man.

Yes, because division of assets isn't based on fault (which it should be imo).

What's also wrong is that if you get alimony, and your partner moves in with someone else, it only stops if they get remarried.