That is the worst qualification I've ever heard. Oh by the way, I'm a lawyer cause I walked by the law book section in borders once.
Going Vegan
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That is the worst qualification I've ever heard. Oh by the way, I'm a lawyer cause I walked by the law book section in borders once.
Because it's natural to, we evolved to, and animals eat other animals. It is not unethical to eat meat.
Do you realize that this is exactly the same logic that white slave-owners made about blacks? It's scary how archaic you sound.
Dude, wtf. I already said it doesn't make me an expert. All I'm saying is that I have some background in nutrition so I'm not at the fucking idiot level that I would actually think that the body only knows calories and absolutely nothing else. My quote was taken out of context.
So you're just an idiot as far as evolution and morality are concerned. Got it.
None of your "reasons" are moral claims. You're basically saying, "Everyone is doing it, so it has to be right."
We're NOT like other animals, so to say that eating meat is right because a coyote does it doesn't make much sense. Lions eat baby lion cubs. Does that make it right for a human to eat other babies? Your "natural" argument doesn't hold.
If humans based their morality on what happened in the wild, societies would be chaos.
The difference is african americans are of equal intelligence to other human beings. That is why in my post I said "unintelligent animals".
Are you arguing that cows are of equal intelligence to human beings?
Do you actually have anything to say? You've made two comments and they've both been ad hominem. Try to respond to any one of my claims and we can have a discussion. If you don't want to do that, I don't even see why you're wasting your time on this thread.
Cardine, for all you know the cow's are doing equations in their heads while grazing and just don't know how to tell us yet.
I was practically a communications minor in college.
Respond to it then. If not, you should have better things to do than argue with a "troll," no?
The meat vs. no meat argument doesn't hinge on intelligence. It hinges on the capacity to feel pain and the capacity to have autonomy.
It's wrong to hurt humans that are mentally retarded. Or to hurt babies. Neither of these beings have "intelligence," but we think its wrong to hurt them because of some other reason. Well, THAT "some other reason" is something most animals share. I call it autonomy. You might call it something else.
Cows have preferences, they have autonomy. And by raising them for slaughter, we're violating that autonomy.
Again, the discussion has nothing to do with intelligence.
If I find dogs on the street and start beating them with a lead pipe, I'd go to jail.
If I beat cows with a lead pipe, that's just standard practice. It's behavior control.
Why the double standard? They're equally intelligent.
He already did. We are designed to eat meat and animal products. If you don't do so, it takes a very significant effort to not die from malnutrition.
I love WickedFire, but the one things that just makes me laugh is there is such a "bro" attitude about everything on this forum. If getting high fives from your bros on an online forum is what you consider a valuable use of your time, then I don't even know what to say.
Either respond to my comments in earnest or leave. I can't really understand anything in between as anything other than a complete waste of your own time.
You can't seriously be this stupid. Humans through our evolution never ate our young. It is not natural for humans to eat their young- therefore we do not do it.
A very large chunk of the Indian subcontinent is vegan. They're fucking like rabbits and there's no stopping them.
And how can you explain this group of poor, malnourished people?
So are you against killing rats, ants, or flies because that violates their autonomy?
Have you asked a cow what they want to do and have they ever told you that they don't want to be safe from predators and have a steady supply of food and water? I possibly might need to defer this question to mpbiz, since after all he is the communications expert.
Where do you think our morality came from, if not from evolution and the 'wild'? If there was an evolutionary advantage to eating our young, we would do it and think it is moral to do so.
There is no double standard. Beating cows with lead pipes for no reason is NOT standard practice. Dogs and cats are killed by the thousands every day by animal shelters, etc, which serves no purpose. We kill cows every day and put them to good use. What the shit are you even talking about?