Going Vegan

mpbiz said:
The kids in elementary school right now are fucked.. have you seen the pink slime?
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the pink slime was pretty impossible to miss

my kids are going to be likely home schooled - or at least go to school with their own prepared meals. our school systems (and the food that's provided in them) are a complete and total joke...but that's another story
 


brandonbaker said:
None of your "reasons" are moral claims. You're basically saying, "Everyone is doing it, so it has to be right."

We're NOT like other animals, so to say that eating meat is right because a coyote does it doesn't make much sense. Lions eat baby lion cubs. Does that make it right for a human to eat other babies? Your "natural" argument doesn't hold.

If humans based their morality on what happened in the wild, societies would be chaos.
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Alexander the Great ate meat brah. Where's your god now?
 
seiux said:
my kids are going to be likely home schooled - or at least go to school with their own prepared meals. our school systems (and the food that's provided in them) are a complete and total joke...but that's another story
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Some schools has stopped allowing kids to bring their own meals. Scary shit.
 
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clear said:
Some schools has stopped allowing kids to bring their own meals. Scary shit.
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my kids will not be attending those schools and if the school they attend makes a rule like that i would pull them out - problem solved

talking about this stresses me out, i try to avoid knowing what's happening in the world
 
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momchil9 said:
You thought wrong bra.

If you don't believe me, just go to the mirror and look at your teeth.
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And look at the length of our intestines, look at our colon, we make vitamin c via external sources, we perspire, etc. Seems to go both ways, hence me asking for him to elaborate.
 
Of course "going vegan" doesn't automatically mean you eat healthy. It still depends on the nutritional value of what you eat. For example, you can call yourself a vegan and eat lots of sugary snacks, pop and deep fried food. Oreo cookies are vegan!

I switched to a plant based diet for about a year now. I still eat some fish/seafood once in a while, but I would say I'm around 95% plant based. I don't consume any eggs, dairy or land animals. The switch was for mostly health reasons and I've definitely noticed big changes!

Some of the Improvements:

- More energy throughout the day (no roller-coasters and no food comas)
- Strengthened Immune System (didn't get a cold or flue like I usually get every winter).
- Weight loss (I eat as much as I want and I still dropped 25 lbs since I started (190 lbs to 165 lbs). There is no guilt and no need to calorie count.
- Sports Performance (my long distance running has improved both in finishing time and recovery. Of course, losing the weight helped, but also my body seems to be operating at a lower temperature throughout the day.
- My tastes seem more refined and I don't have the sugar cravings I used to have
- I'm doing more of my own cooking and experimenting with recipes, so naturally I'm using new ingredients and ways to combine them
- You'll be forced to examine whats actually in your food! And you'll be astonished at the shite thats legally allowed in there!

Note: Assume your food has some GMO in it, unless its labeled 100% organic. I always avoid HFCS (corn sugar) and steer clear of additives/preservatives and artificial flavors/colors.

Some of the Downsides:

- Expect to pay more for higher quality, less processed and more natural food. Especially when GMO & Big Agra products are often subsidized in the US & Canada
- Social isolation if your friends/family/co-workers don't support you
- Your significant other won't find you as warm in the bed (my wife complains that I'm turning into a vampire since my body temp is lower)
- You'll realize a lot of food you thought was OK for you to eat, isn't good for you at all
- Lack of restaurant choices when eating out and travelling (I just got back from Japan and it was tough to find places even in Tokyo)

I've had two physicals during this time, including full blood work with the results improving quite a bit in the 6 months. I should mention that I already had cut out most dairy and eggs years prior. Here is my latest cardio risk assessment results from April, would be curious to see other's results.

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Don't go unchecked! I definitely recommend seeing a health professional before and after you make the switch. You'll want to make sure you are getting all the trace elements/minerals and vitamins you need to keep making those monies.

Feel free to hit me up if you want some good resources. I've been down the road long enough to gather some useful navigation wisdom.
 
I love how most of the posts in this thread are meat-eaters bashing vegans, but when a vegan starts defending his point of view with the same kind of over-the-top attitude, everyone calls foul.

It's "cool" to bash vegans for how "annoying" they are, and yeah, we get that. We're not oblivious to that. We totally get how over-the-top we are because we're passionate about it. I love the taste of meat, the smell of meat, I used to love to cook meat and season it to perfection. So for someone like that to completely forgo meat (whether it's a sensible decision or not) takes quite a bit of passion. I'm not asking for a pat in the back or any of that shit. I'm just saying that this decision, whether misguided or not, takes dedication. So, yeah, I am going to be over the top about my beliefs.

The thing is that vegans "get" why it's in vogue for meat-eaters to bash vegans but we still don't give a fuck. Most of us (I hope) hold this belief very intensely for very concrete reasons. Agree or disagree, we're not going to stop.

And to that one dude who called himself the "1%" of vegans: that's cool, man. It's much easier to be that guy, and if that's the choice you made, that's cool. No sarcasm. I choose to be the 99%, very consciously.

All of you guys will continue to get your kicks and inflate your e-penis with your lame vegan jokes, without realizing how you're just as fucking annoying as we are. lol
 
I do not have the patience to read through all of the dumb ass posts so I may be saying something already said (doubtful) all you need to do is decide do you want to be a normal sized man and have a good testosterone or be a skinny woMAN and have NO testosterone.
Testosterone is made from CHOLESTEROL Good luck with your shrinking balls
 
Just saying this seems like what a repressed homosexual would say about cock

I love the taste of meat, the smell of meat, I used to love to cook meat and season it to perfection. So for someone like that to completely forgo meat (whether it's a sensible decision or not) takes quite a bit of passion. I'm not asking for a pat in the back or any of that shit. I'm just saying that this decision, whether misguided or not, takes dedication. So, yeah, I am going to be over the top about my beliefs.
 
brandonbaker said:
I love how most of the posts in this thread are meat-eaters bashing vegans, but when a vegan starts defending his point of view with the same kind of over-the-top attitude, everyone calls foul.

It's "cool" to bash vegans for how "annoying" they are, and yeah, we get that. We're not oblivious to that. We totally get how over-the-top we are because we're passionate about it. I love the taste of meat, the smell of meat, I used to love to cook meat and season it to perfection. So for someone like that to completely forgo meat (whether it's a sensible decision or not) takes quite a bit of passion. I'm not asking for a pat in the back or any of that shit. I'm just saying that this decision, whether misguided or not, takes dedication. So, yeah, I am going to be over the top about my beliefs.

The thing is that vegans "get" why it's in vogue for meat-eaters to bash vegans but we still don't give a fuck. Most of us (I hope) hold this belief very intensely for very concrete reasons. Agree or disagree, we're not going to stop.

And to that one dude who called himself the "1%" of vegans: that's cool, man. It's much easier to be that guy, and if that's the choice you made, that's cool. No sarcasm. I choose to be the 99%, very consciously.

All of you guys will continue to get your kicks and inflate your e-penis with your lame vegan jokes, without realizing how you're just as fucking annoying as we are. lol
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Because this long, drawn-out, butthurt post definitely exemplifies how much you "don't give a fuck".
 
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