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dreamscape said:
So he lied about smelling it.
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Cops lie whenever doing so gets them closer to what they want.

Treat cops the same way you would treat Pesci's character in Goodfellas: avoid whenever possible. If confronted, comply to avoid being killed, beaten, or kidnapped.

By the way, Horowitz has a fun blog with great stories (many about his run-ins with cops). Here's one:

http://www.rhdefense.com/2013/03/07/overlords

Also good:

http://www.rhdefense.com/2013/04/23/it-cant-happen-to-me
 


If anything we need more enforcement. This is the future of successful societies my friends.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8rPofi-AUw"]The best of Lee Kuan Yew - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihiE4oGyYlQ"]Lee Kuan Yew Hard Truths To Keep Singapore Going Interview - Hot-button Topics - YouTube[/ame]

Thats how you make a small 3rd world country into an economical powerhouse in less then 50 years.
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guerilla said:
How did the cop get his authority?
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I already know where this is headed and I already know you don't like the answer because I'm pretty sure we've been down this road before. But for anyone else reading, the cops get their authority from the citizens of the community who implicitly give them authority every time they pay property taxes. That's why cops only have authority in the jurisdiction in which their salaries are paid for by the citizenry.

As someone who has probably been fucked harder by the police and their corrupt court system than most people on this board, I would love to agree that they have no authority. But if that isn't authority, then you're working with a different definition than the rest of society is.

When you pay property taxes it states right on there what you're paying for and part of what you're paying for is police. And if you are traveling on public roads in a jurisdiction in which you do not pay property taxes than you have to understand that you are implicitly agreeing to abide by the rules of that community and the police that they have hired when you pass through. If you don't like it - don't use their public roads.

Now all of this may sound like I am somehow defending those jackboot motherfuckers, but that's not the case. I just want to make sure some naive little fuck doesn't read these pie-in-the-sky anarchy posts and think this type of shit won't end badly for them. If you've never had your door busted down and guns pointed at you before being hauled off to prison, then you probably shouldn't be telling people the police only have authority because "one cow followed another cow".
 
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They borrow for different reasons; not to support social programs or a military.

Plus they borrow from within; unlike other countries like US. Borrowing is based on returns not expenditures. Thats what makes them so different.
Dont let that number fool you.

I'm not even trying to say their system is best. I'm trying to point out they have leadership that works with niches and isn't afraid to be politically incorrect. In the current world system they made it work for them - that might not be the case for any other country trying to do the same thing. Study Lee Kuan Yew and run your business that way. The man is a stud.
 
Those kids in the car reeked of faggot.

What a stupid fucking video. The cop did nothing at all wrong. The kid was breaking the law. Break the law and then act in an inhumane way towards someone that you pay to enforce it? Makes a lot of fucking sense.
 
Pheasant said:
I get it, you have rights and you don't want cops to overstep their boundaries.. but like.... roll down your fucking window more than an inch, dumbass.
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jhoffy22;.50715 said:
Those kids in the car reeked of faggot.

What a stupid fucking video. The cop did nothing at all wrong. The kid was breaking the law. Break the law and then act in an inhumane way towards someone that you pay to enforce it? Makes a lot of fucking sense.
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Are you implying taxes are voluntary? And inhumane? Wtfffs, is this real life?
 
No. Are you implying that society would function properly if we had a voluntary taxation system?

How would this forum function without moderators? What kind of shit pit would it be?

Impolite and unnecessary better describes how the kids acted towards the cop. If the circumstances were different and they weren't breaking any laws, it would be a little different. No reason to be an asshole to someone based on their position in society, which is obviously what these fuckwads have chose as their hobby.
 
guerilla said:
It's interesting how the cop won't answer the question at the end. That's a point kingofsp and I were trying to make in another thread.

The only reason why these people have any "authority" (other than the assertion of violence for non-compliance) is that people believe they do.

And people believe they do because other people believe they do. It's called herd signalling. We move when the other cows move, and they are moving because some other cow moved.

We're all moving and yet no one really knows why. Just because we saw other people moving. It's probably some evolutionary bias that helped keep the tribe together and alive.

And that's what belief in the state is like. You do it because your friends do it. Because your parents do it. Because it's woven into our media, education, history, symbols and entertainment.
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Bro, do you ever relax? Serious question.
 
Most every state/region in the U.S. has some local regulations regarding vehicle registration, safety inspections or emissions inspections. That's not police state stuff, just things that have been legislated for the "good" of the people in that region.

Asshats who don't comply with the basic legislated concepts agreeable to the majority of the local population rationally could be expected to be detained/questioned.

1. Non-Asshats don't drive around with 3 friends and a camera in a compact car.
2. Non-Asshats pay registration and other fees promptly(or whenever in my case).
3. Non-Asshats don't engage in Contempt of Cop.

Contempt of Cop isn't written in state statutes, but engaging in it can lead to lots of other statutes being cited.
Roll the window down, be polite and move on with life.
 
guerilla said:
We're all moving and yet no one really knows why. Just because we saw other people moving.
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Come on, you know you're getting a little carried away with this shit right?

The cows keep in line because they saw the ones who didn't got turned into burgers.

They do it for the same reason your cow ass does it.
 
This is going to sound like trolling but I'm honestly not, I really would like to understand the expectations of actors[1] when they have to deal with both ends of the law enforcement spectrum instead of just one extreme or the other.

In the video the driver asked what agreement he signed that compelled him to register his vehicle with the state. This sounds like a reasonable question, I've had tickets myself that are obviously more about revenue as opposed to public safety.

But what if a few blocks down the road the driver in the video stopped at a red light and somebody walked up, shoved a gun in his face, pistol whipped him, and told him and his passengers to get out before the carjacker drives away with the owner's vehicle?

What would the CONSISTENT response of the driver be? Would he:

a) call the cops and expect them to at least attempt to retrieve his property and take the perpetrators that assaulted him off the street? (Since most "reasonable" people would acknowledge that carjackings are way worse than registration violations)

b) acknowledge that he didn't utilize the free market to secure a private security detail to prevent the carjacking and chalk it up as as learning experience for the next time since he never signed an agreement with the state and would have no reasonable expectation of protection or follow up investigation to begin with?

If the answer isn't "b" does the driver really have the standing to question why he has to register his car to begin with?

[1] By actors I'm not implying the people in the youtube video are thespians but rather just people involved in an interaction with other people
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ]Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police! - YouTube[/ame]
 
jhoffy22 said:
No. Are you implying that society would function properly if we had a voluntary taxation system?

How would this forum function without moderators? What kind of shit pit would it be?

Impolite and unnecessary better describes how the kids acted towards the cop. If the circumstances were different and they weren't breaking any laws, it would be a little different. No reason to be an asshole to someone based on their position in society, which is obviously what these fuckwads have chose as their hobby.
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You sound angry. Have you considered a career in law enforcement?


p0ck3taces said:
The cows keep in line because they saw the ones who didn't got turned into burgers.
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Pretty sure the cows who stay in line still get turned into burgers!


Unarmed Gunman said:
I already know where this is headed and I already know you don't like the answer because I'm pretty sure we've been down this road before. But for anyone else reading, the cops get their authority from the citizens of the community who implicitly give them authority every time they pay property taxes. That's why cops only have authority in the jurisdiction in which their salaries are paid for by the citizenry.
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I understand where you're coming from. I'm not going to speak for anyone else, but please don't think that I'm trying to assert that nobody should comply with the police and everything will be roses. Obviously there are inherent risks, and there are potentially very shitty consequences. The point I try to get across is how absurd the whole thing is. The more people I can spread that message to, the happier it makes me.

Even the Supreme Court has taken the position that the police have no actual duty to protect anyone. So even if we were to pretend that people voluntarily paid property taxes so that the police would protect them, they wouldn't even be getting what they're "paying" for. And why should the police bother protecting anyone? As I'm sure you know, whether or not they protect you, they still get paid.

I'll be the first one to agree that if you tell a cop to fuck off because he has no authority over you that you might very well find yourself arrested for some nonsense and/or beaten mildly to severely. I think most people here would agree. But the more we can expose the absurdity of the entire system and try to force them to answer for it, the better off we'll be. At least that's my hope. At the very least, there will be entertainment value in it.
 
justo_tx said:
In the video the driver asked what agreement he signed that compelled him to register his vehicle with the state. This sounds like a reasonable question, I've had tickets myself that are obviously more about revenue as opposed to public safety.

But what if a few blocks down the road the driver in the video stopped at a red light and somebody walked up, shoved a gun in his face, pistol whipped him, and told him and his passengers to get out before the carjacker drives away with the owner's vehicle?

What would the CONSISTENT response of the driver be? Would he:

a) call the cops and expect them to at least attempt to retrieve his property and take the perpetrators that assaulted him off the street? (Since most "reasonable" people would acknowledge that carjackings are way worse than registration violations)

b) acknowledge that he didn't utilize the free market to secure a private security detail to prevent the carjacking and chalk it up as as learning experience for the next time since he never signed an agreement with the state and would have no reasonable expectation of protection or follow up investigation to begin with?

If the answer isn't "b" does the driver really have the standing to question why he has to register his car to begin with?
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Again, the police have no duty to protect anyone. Have you ever tried enlisting the help of the police to retrieve personal property? If my car was stolen, I would report it to the police only because I'm sure my insurance company would require it.

My girlfriend's mother's car was stolen recently. They filed a police report and all that. About a week later she found it herself just a few blocks away.
 
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