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Not sure about your science. If I fart under the covers my wife *always* smells it no matter how tight the blankets.

imo its the vibrations that gives it away :C

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Video Just Released: Idaho police kill man surrendering with hands above head. Charges dropped. Shots at 2:20.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=668cSYtIrrE"]Nez Perce Tribal Police shooting Nov. 12, 2011 - YouTube[/ame]
ffwd to 1:20 for action

Flinn holds a shotgun out the window, fires twice, then drops the gun on the road. Seconds later, Flinn jumps out of the truck, facing police, with his hands on top of his head. Words appear to be exchanged (the video does not include sound). Approximately six seconds elapse, and Flinn suddenly drops to his knees, then to the ground. Three officers close in, guns drawn, and one grabs the shotgun and moves it aside.
 
douches

I am not even getting into the whole "who is the police anyways?"

But the door had already been opened once (legality of that withstanding, obviously there was no pot or alcohol smell and the cop did not fabricate anything of the like)

So why close the door again and make the man jump through your stupid little hoops?

Sorry, but that cop was doing alright and had every reason to be upset with those clowns in the end.

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I think you mean to ask, "are you always intense?" and the answer is yes.

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keep fucking around w/ the cops. One day his camera is going to get smashed when he is thrown to the ground. As his head bounces off the ground, he will have the strange taste of blood and gravel in his mouth. The crack of the "billy" club will ring in his ears, while blow after blow rain down on the back of his skull.

All this can be eliminated by simply rolling down the window and treating the officer like a human being. Be a dick and get treated like the dick you are.
 
I understand where you're coming from. I'm not going to speak for anyone else, but please don't think that I'm trying to assert that nobody should comply with the police and everything will be roses. Obviously there are inherent risks, and there are potentially very shitty consequences. The point I try to get across is how absurd the whole thing is. The more people I can spread that message to, the happier it makes me.

Even the Supreme Court has taken the position that the police have no actual duty to protect anyone. So even if we were to pretend that people voluntarily paid property taxes so that the police would protect them, they wouldn't even be getting what they're "paying" for. And why should the police bother protecting anyone? As I'm sure you know, whether or not they protect you, they still get paid.

I'll be the first one to agree that if you tell a cop to fuck off because he has no authority over you that you might very well find yourself arrested for some nonsense and/or beaten mildly to severely. I think most people here would agree. But the more we can expose the absurdity of the entire system and try to force them to answer for it, the better off we'll be. At least that's my hope. At the very least, there will be entertainment value in it.

Remember how property taxes work though. They are voluntary in that the citizens of that community voted on millages over time that determined how much they were willing to pay for schools, fire, police etc. Some people didn't vote (or voted differently) but implicitly agree to abide by the majority decisions of the community by staying there and continuing to pay property taxes.

*on a side note, there is a very interesting development in Detroit over the last few years where people just stopped paying their property taxes because the schools were shit, and the police and fire did nothing to protect their lives or property. So many have refused to pay that the city has made no moves to evict them since there are too many. Now the city has an Emergency Financial Manager (the mayor and city council have had their power completely removed - the EFM runs the city now) who is revamping the property tax system and the services in order to make sure the people are getting the services they are paying for. So if enough people just refuse to pay it forces the hands of those in power to address their concerns. If people keep paying then they are implicitly agreeing that they are happy with the terms of the property tax for services arrangement.

Now, even in a voluntaryist society you would still have to have some form of consensus to move forward with group projects. If a bunch of voluntaryists were to get together and form a community they would eventually want to hire some form of security to protect their lives and property. Maybe a few bids are given and votes are taken, but unless there is a unanimous agreement on everything (lol good luck with that) at that point some of them have bound the others to a contract similar to what the citizens in your community have bound you to in regards to the current police force.

I'm sympathetic to the volutaryist position, I really am. I believe it is the most moral position, but it is unsustainable as has been proven over time in every society ever. People keep forgetting that every single community started out as a voluntaryist society and over time it has evolved into a government. There are no exceptions.

Call it a flaw in the human condition, but one thing I've learned is there is nothing more hopeless than fighting against human nature. We have oppressive governments because the people want them. It sucks, but people feel comfort in slavery. Why do you think the slaves never rose up en masse and freed themselves?
 
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Are you implying taxes are voluntary? And inhumane? Wtfffs, is this real life?

Society does and would continue function without taxes.

What do moderators have to do with taxation?

Read the context of our conversation. He was implying that I was implying that paying your taxes is voluntary, which we know by law it is, but in practicality it really isn't.

The point that I was trying to make is that some are just not fit to live unchained. We pay taxes so that we can sacrifice that bit of freedom for some security (aka police). Without taxes, who pays those sworn to protect and serve? What happens without a security force? We can't even imagine what it would be like, because the circumstances would be entirely different.

In our little Wickedfire society, moderators are a necessity to keep this place running smoothly. The world is no different - every society has its outliers which force the hand.
 
I'll be the first one to agree that if you tell a cop to fuck off because he has no authority over you that you might very well find yourself arrested for some nonsense and/or beaten mildly to severely.

Indeed, like this 19-year-old college student. (caution to the squeamish: couple of bloody pics.)

That's the reason I suggest avoidance and when confronted, compliance: self-preservation and safety of my family. I would not challenge James Burke for the same reasons. Nor would I challenge any sociopathic thug (without being armed). And if we're talking about a thug who has the courts and prosecutors in his corner (e.g. a cop), forget about it.

Cut your losses and live in peace.
 
Without taxes, who pays those sworn to protect and serve? What happens without a security force? We can't even imagine what it would be like, because the circumstances would be entirely different.

In our little Wickedfire society, moderators are a necessity to keep this place running smoothly. The world is no different - every society has its outliers which force the hand.

Again, the police have no actual obligation to protect anyone. Think about that.

Also, Wickedfire is privately owned.
 
Come on, you know you're getting a little carried away with this shit right?

The cows keep in line because they saw the ones who didn't got turned into burgers.

They do it for the same reason your cow ass does it.

That's a horrible comparison for anyone that's seen cows get slaughtered.
 
The point that I was trying to make is that some are just not fit to live unchained. We pay taxes so that we can sacrifice that bit of freedom for some security (aka police). Without taxes, who pays those sworn to protect and serve? What happens without a security force? We can't even imagine what it would be like, because the circumstances would be entirely
Slow down there Hitler.

The point that I was trying to make is that some are just not fit to live unchained.
Who is so morally righteous as to make that determination? Hitler thought the Jews were not fit to live.

We pay taxes so that we can sacrifice that bit of freedom for some security (aka police).
That's the propaganda.

Without taxes, who pays those sworn to protect and serve?
Who pays for private security? Who pays for insurance?

We can't even imagine what it would be like, because the circumstances would be entirely
That's true, so why are you projecting that they would be dire?
 
I am not even getting into the whole "who is the police anyways?"
Good idea because you're probably not intellectually equipped to handle the question.

keep fucking around w/ the cops. One day his camera is going to get smashed when he is thrown to the ground. As his head bounces off the ground, he will have the strange taste of blood and gravel in his mouth. The crack of the "billy" club will ring in his ears, while blow after blow rain down on the back of his skull.
And that's the world you approve of right?

You post about the sins of the state, and then you openly applaud the violence and irrationality of the same. Petit Hellblazer.

All this can be eliminated by simply rolling down the window and treating the carjacker like a human being.
FTFY
 
All I saw in this video is a police officer trying to do his job. He obviously has seniority in his little town and it showed. Handled the entire situation with grace and was NON-confrontational the entire time.

There are some police officers that shouldn't be and those that make mistakes should be punished accordingly. However, I do believe overall most do the best they can with the resources and training given.

Most important - remember - you are dealing with HUMAN BEINGS with ALL of their FAULTS and BIASES. Cops NEED to be impartial and courteous every single time - however - they are only humans and make MISTAKES.

For anyone raging on police officers because of these videos may I humbly suggest going down to your local precinct and asking to do a 'Ride Along' on a Friday or Saturday night? These are free and all you have to do is sign a waiver. When asked why you want to do this just tell them you want to learn about the job they do. You'll be assigned to a beat officer and ride around with him an entire shift.

Most fun time you will have for a while and you will learn a great deal. What do they look for but most importantly WHY? You'll see people CONSTANTLY lying to them, badgering and treating them like shit. Then you'll see others that are purely awesome to them. Big surprise - when people aren't dick heads most officers are actually pretty cool. Instead of raging on them for pulling you over for speeding, how about just being honest and saying... Good morning. how are YOU today. (and actually be sincere). You'd be surprised how many times you can walk away with a 'warning' vs. an actual ticket.

Smile and hand them the monopoly - get out of jail card - and ask if that works for tickets too. You'll have them laughing and you never know. He might forget about the ticket.

Long story short, use it as education on how to deal with a police officer when pulled over yourself. You might just learn something that will help you in the future.

Again, this is not 'justifying' or 'excusing' any rogue behavior. Those guys should be arrested and adjudicated harder then anyone else since they are the 'enforcers' of our laws...