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Man, I need to get me some of them antique green curtains..

ps - Paul - why not put your plasma on the fireplace mantle? It'll save you lots of space, and it works out fine..
 


Rancor13 said:
Don't know why you guys are being harsh, he's doing really well. Why your making fun of him, or bashing him for trying to help is beyond me. He's offering a service, if he wants to charge for a service so be it. If you don't like the site, don't view it. If you don't want to pay for it, then doubt. However, why even waste the time bashing it? Sounds like quite a few of you guys are jealous that he can actually charge that much and people are still going to sign up. Just sad that you guys aren't going to support a fellow affiliate.
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If he is free to create it, we are free to bash it. Get used to it, this is how the entire world works.
 
Hardly surprising... the only reason any of these "super affiliates" start a blog with big earnings screenshots is to build their downline and sell to newbs. bait 'em by providing some good information at first and then, suddenly, when your subscriber count is high enough, no more good information and upsell upsell upsell.
Uberaffiliate,Cashtactics,they're all the same.
 
stack paper said:
I wouldn't put Ruck in the same category as uber. Although I don't think he runs it anymore.
That was one of the blogs I actually followed.. Have gotten some good info off there.
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Ruck had great info, especially some of the older posts. There were some good nuggets in the CPA Marketing series too, about using polls for CPA offers, etc. And then, suddenly, the CPA Marketing series stops and, what a coincidence, Ruck is pimping a $49 script for making poll landing pages. All of these guys start with good info to gain readers, but ultimately their main goal is to sell to you.
 
machinecontrol said:
Ruck had great info, especially some of the older posts. There were some good nuggets in the CPA Marketing series too, about using polls for CPA offers, etc. And then, suddenly, the CPA Marketing series stops and, what a coincidence, Ruck is pimping a $49 script for making poll landing pages. All of these guys start with good info to gain readers, but ultimately their main goal is to sell to you.
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It's called marketing.

But Uber, I agree, is doing more. He is ripping people off. $200 to get some old info that is free here on WF ans other places? $5,000 a month to talk one on one with some arrogant dude living in a $200k house who thinks way too highly of himself?

To put this a different way, Uber is selling a $200 service promising to teach them the secrets to make even more. (Sound familiar?) Cashtactics is selling a script that does what it is meant for: setups a poll style landing page.

Luckily, the only people who could possibly dumb enough to signup for UberCamp without doing a little searching to find the same service for free on a lot of other websites (like WF) are pathetic noobs. And they are most likely not making much money and therefor won't be able to afford UberCamp.

Watch, the highest amount of members Paul is going to have at any one time is going to be no more than 5.
 
-Matt- said:
It's called marketing.

But Uber, I agree, is doing more. He is ripping people off. $200 to get some old info that is free here on WF ans other places? $5,000 a month to talk one on one with some arrogant dude living in a $200k house who thinks way too highly of himself?

Luckily, the only people who could possibly dumb enough to signup for UberCamp without doing a little searching to find the same service for free on a lot of other websites (like WF) are pathetic noobs. And they are most likely not making much money and therefor won't be able to afford UberCamp.

Watch, the highest amount of members Paul is going to have at any one time is going to be no more than 5.
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With all due respect to you, how do you know what he's offering if your not a member? Sign up and THEN give us a critique.

P.S. you might very well be right that its all rehashed crap, but.....maybe....not.
 
I don't see what the big deal is.

We're all affiliate marketers, it's in our nature to try and earn more $.

No matter how much "free" information is out there, there will always be people who are willing to spend $ and be spoon fed what to do.

If someone spends $1000 and learns some information that makes him $10,000, was it a bad deal for either side?
 
-Matt- said:
Watch, the highest amount of members Paul is going to have at any one time is going to be no more than 5.
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Wouldn't that make $25k?
UberAffiliate dude should hold a contest of some sort and give away as a prize one one the 'many' camper seats.
I would gladly apply and ofc take that place because I am such manly affiliate marketer and soon after the first lesson or so I can share my impressions on my own state of the art blog.
Just $199 membership fee.
There: U can now save $4801!!!!
 
I think too highly of myself? And how the hell do you know what info will flow through the forums when it hasn't even started yet?

I'm not promising any secrets and this forum is NOT for noobs who "don't know any better". It's a place where I'll do things like case studies to show people how I run a campaign, have discussions about AM, and build tools like Offer Watch.

$200/month is cheap for any real affiliate marketer but too expensive for a noob who isn't serious. Works out well I think.

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But Uber, I agree, is doing more. He is ripping people off. $200 to get some old info that is free here on WF ans other places? $5,000 a month to talk one on one with some arrogant dude living in a $200k house who thinks way too highly of himself?
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machinecontrol said:
Ruck had great info, especially some of the older posts. There were some good nuggets in the CPA Marketing series too, about using polls for CPA offers, etc. And then, suddenly, the CPA Marketing series stops and, what a coincidence, Ruck is pimping a $49 script for making poll landing pages. All of these guys start with good info to gain readers, but ultimately their main goal is to sell to you.
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What the hell is wrong with you? Is this your way of saying thanks to people who post lots of quality information? People like Ruck and Paul aren't running a fucking charity, they have every right to try and sell you their shit. I can't believe how people think it's ok to leech off free information and then start shit as soon as the author of that free information decides they want to make money out of it. What do you think teachers and consultants do? All because this takes the form of a private forum or whatever, does it make anything different?

Fucking hell.

-Matt- said:
It's called marketing.

But Uber, I agree, is doing more. He is ripping people off. $200 to get some old info that is free here on WF ans other places? $5,000 a month to talk one on one with some arrogant dude living in a $200k house who thinks way too highly of himself?
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Oh, I didn't know you had already become a member and reviewed the information. Oh wait, you're not. So what the hell are you talking about?

To put this a different way, Uber is selling a $200 service promising to teach them the secrets to make even more. (Sound familiar?) Cashtactics is selling a script that does what it is meant for: setups a poll style landing page.
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Ruck isn't selling a script. Someone else made it after reading Rucks post. The maker of the poll script is also a member of this forum and has even posted here.

Watch, the highest amount of members Paul is going to have at any one time is going to be no more than 5.
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Judging from the comments on his blog, he looks like he's going to get a lot more than 5 members.
 
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Dr_Ngo said:
I don't see what the big deal is.

We're all affiliate marketers, it's in our nature to try and earn more $.

No matter how much "free" information is out there, there will always be people who are willing to spend $ and be spoon fed what to do.

If someone spends $1000 and learns some information that makes him $10,000, was it a bad deal for either side?
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very true. it's like to critique somebody is pushing thousands of lead for a dating site... you are ripping people off as well, cause they could go out in a bar and hook up with somebody for free... i'm not going to spend my money on his forum but i'm not going to bash him for doing it.

money is money, he makes money off of noobs, most of you makes money off of single people, small dick people, losers, fat people and so.

if i could, i would probably do it myself.
 
Paul I'd give up on defending yourself here, I don' thing you can win. You have helped me alot with PPC and I am sure countless others. Don't worry about the haters, you are simply offering a service, they don't have to sign up. Why waste your time with them you won't be able to change their opinions they just like to hate and are most likely jealous and hate seeing you succeed.

As a thank-you to your help so far I am going to sign up and see if this service increases my PPC earnings more then the monthly cost.

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1 thing is for sure... any press is good press. The longer this thread goes on... the more subscribers Uber Camp will generate from it. So in that sense, I'm sure Paul is loving every minute of it!

:D
 
I started this thread and I don't give a shit if he makes $0 or $100,000 off this. More power to him if people want to pay him... I would personally feel like a douche bag if I offered something like this, but whatever.

I laugh more at the idiots of the world, looking everywhere for the easy route, when in fact there is no such thing. Paul is no different than a late night infomercial or a televangelist telling people they'll get into heaven if they just send in some cash.

It's pathetic really. I know, I did this shit long before any of these make money blogs were around. I had a big blog (around 20,000 visitors a day) and had a lot of attention. People would have believed anything I said. However, instead of trying to take their money, I told them I hated the infomercial feel of my site and shut it down.

The people who join shit like this probably have a track record similar to this: eBook > fail > DP > fail > make money blog > fail > ubercamp > fail > SMC > fail > McDonald's

There are so many problems with ubercamp, I don't even know where to start. Remember that post he made a while back asking people if they would pay $500 for 3 hours of phone time with him? And then he immediately backed down after being flamed to hell and said it was all a joke? I knew exactly what he was doing at that point and it has just taken the form of ubercamp... or is this a big joke too?

Anyway, it's fucking lame and sad. That's all. If you really want some quality information, go to the fucking library.

The end.
 
subigo said:
I started this thread and I don't give a shit if he makes $0 or $100,000 off this. More power to him if people want to pay him... I would personally feel like a douche bag if I offered something like this, but whatever.

I laugh more at the idiots of the world, looking everywhere for the easy route, when in fact there is no such thing. Paul is no different than a late night infomercial or a televangelist telling people they'll get into heaven if they just send in some cash.

It's pathetic really. I know, I did this shit long before any of these make money blogs were around. I had a big blog (around 20,000 visitors a day) and had a lot of attention. People would have believed anything I said. However, instead of trying to take their money, I told them I hated the infomercial feel of my site and shut it down.

The people who join shit like this probably have a track record similar to this: eBook > fail > DP > fail > make money blog > fail > ubercamp > fail > SMC > fail > McDonald's

There are so many problems with ubercamp, I don't even know where to start. Remember that post he made a while back asking people if they would pay $500 for 3 hours of phone time with him? And then he immediately backed down after being flamed to hell and said it was all a joke? I knew exactly what he was doing at that point and it has just taken the form of ubercamp... or is this a big joke too?

Anyway, it's fucking lame and sad. That's all. If you really want some quality information, go to the fucking library.

The end.
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I wouldn't criticize his service too much unless you have actually tried it. I have not, and will reserve comment until I do....if I do.

On the other hand I can criticize YOUR service since I did try it. I got less links and less press then If I had written the damn press release myself and submitted it myself using PRweb. Out of every wickedfire members' services I have tried yours was by far the worst. Don't act like your shit don't stink.

Props to every single person here trying to make money.
 
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