Iowa Caucuses

People on reddit were saying this after it happened. Seems military rules say you can not endorse or take part in any sort of politics while wearing your uniform. He did in fact actually break like 3 rules and will probably get in a lot of trouble.

That may be true. My question is how often is this enforced?
 


It must be exhausting being Ron Paul or any of the others. Your constantly doing something at all times and probably don't sleep much, especially this whole year.
 
“You guys make a pretty good photo op,” Overlord Obama.


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My question is how often is this enforced?

It's enforced.

There's a reason you don't see troops in uniform on TV calling B.S. on the wars they're fighting, or supporting any potential opponents of their standing Commander In Chief.

He could literally be executed for treason. I highly doubt that because it was on the national stage.

He'll most likely either be discharged or busted down in rank/pay.

I think it's almost impossible for the soldier not to know that - My guess would be an intentional act of defiance. Maybe he felt he had to break the rules to do the right thing. Maybe he's trying to get out of his next vacation to Afghanistan. No idea.
 
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I think it's almost impossible for the soldier not to know that - My guess would be an intentional act of defiance. Maybe he felt he had to break the rules to do the right thing. Maybe he's trying to get out of his next vacation to Afghanistan. No idea.
The huge tattoo on his Neck of the twin towers show that this dude CARES. Some may call it true patriotism, and others may call him a tin-foil-hat toting loon, but the man clearly has no lack of care for the cause of defending america.

I agree that there was no way in hell he thought he'd go without punishment. He'll be a private again soon, no doubt... But his serious care for his country would indicate that he knew the price and was willing to pay to save his country from emperor obama.
 
If the society was Ron Paul loving, he would have won the caucuses.

How did Rick Perry do tonight?

Dregs of society. As in not mainstream. Perry is down but not out, although I have basically consigned myself to being satisfied if Romney wins the presidency. The Republican Congress in 2012 will be able to drag him further right than he wants, he looks the most presidential out of that sad, sad ensemble, he'll manage the economy decently, and he will roll back all of Obama's Communist gains.

Of course, that's if Obama and the criminal international machine behind him don't pull some crazy shit before then which I firmly believe they will in which case this entire conversation is meaningless. Meanwhile, you and the entire collection of morons in here continue to bleed desperate hope over a false opposition candidate who combines economic genius with isolationist lunacy. I'd say don't waste your time, but it wouldn't matter. Consolidate the liberals, fracture the conservatives along social/foreign policy/economic lines, turn it into a nasty dogfight, and hope the primary winner emerges completely annihilated by his own party.

Congratulations, all of you fucking idiots are playing right into their hands. Am I gonna see all of you coalesce around the Republican primary winner when RP inevitably collapses? Am I gonna see you guys dedicate "six figures" into defeating what should be your economic arch-nemesis, what should be the complete antithesis of everything you and your Austrian school cohorts purport to stand for? Questions, questions...
 
Dregs of society. As in not mainstream. Perry is down but not out, although I have basically consigned myself to being satisfied if Romney wins the presidency. The Republican Congress in 2012 will be able to drag him further right than he wants, he looks the most presidential out of that sad, sad ensemble, he'll manage the economy decently, and he will roll back all of Obama's Communist gains.

Of course, that's if Obama and the criminal international machine behind him don't pull some crazy shit before then which I firmly believe they will in which case this entire conversation is meaningless. Meanwhile, you and the entire collection of morons in here continue to bleed desperate hope over a false opposition candidate who combines economic genius with isolationist lunacy. I'd say don't waste your time, but it wouldn't matter. Consolidate the liberals, fracture the conservatives along social/foreign policy/economic lines, turn it into a nasty dogfight, and hope the primary winner emerges completely annihilated by his own party.

Congratulations, all of you fucking idiots are playing right into their hands. Am I gonna see all of you coalesce around the Republican primary winner when RP inevitably collapses? Am I gonna see you guys dedicate "six figures" into defeating what should be your economic arch-nemesis, what should be the complete antithesis of everything you and your Austrian school cohorts purport to stand for? Questions, questions...

How is it you're blind to the fact there's not a difference between a republican and democrat as long as they're in the pockets of corporations? I don't care if John McCain won in 2008, we would still be in the same exact situation we're in now with all major decisions aligned the same. Just as the same policies and continued expansion of government created under GWB post clinton, and BO post GWB.

Romney is an insider, look at his campaign contributors. You would be fine with another bought puppet? And your ideal candidate would actually be Rick Perry? The guy that can't even remember which departments he would remove from government?

Is this reality?
 
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Congratulations, all of you fucking idiots are playing right into their hands. Am I gonna see all of you coalesce around the Republican primary winner when RP inevitably collapses? Am I gonna see you guys dedicate "six figures" into defeating what should be your economic arch-nemesis, what should be the complete antithesis of everything you and your Austrian school cohorts purport to stand for? Questions, questions...


No. It's called principles. You like who you like and you dislike who you dislike. I wouldn't give two fucks if anyone running other than RP dropped dead tomorrow, they are all piles of shit and will be no different than Obama.

That being said, you actually like Rick Perry? Really? How and why?

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there's not a difference between a republican and democrat...

if John McCain won in 2008, we would still be in the same exact situation we're in now with all major decisions aligned the same...

Romney is an insider and another bought puppet..

And these beliefs, in a nutshell, perfectly illustrate the problem in this country. On the left, you have the communists. On the right, you have a core of real patriots, plus a hodgepodge of idiots whose minds are contaminated with all of this disinformation nonsense.

Do any of you retards understand that most of Ron Paul's supporters aren't even Republican? Obama's got Democrats infiltrating these primaries in order to give Paul a presence he shouldn't even have, in order to weaken the real contenders.

DEMOCRATS ARE USING RON PAUL TO CREATE ELECTION CHAOS

I mean, just look at you. Turbo's gunning for Paul and she's a diehard liberal. Why should she have a single fucking say in the Republican primary? It makes me sick. If he aligns with her diseased mindset so well, let's send that 80-year old disinformation plant to the Democrat Party!

I'm sick of listening to these "libertarian" retards say there's no difference between a Democrat or a Republican. It's the height of idiocy. To say that Obamacare or the CFPB would exist if McCain was in office. To say that the czars would be in place. To say that the NLRB would be as militant, or that the "stimulus" handout to unions would have occurred. You retards are psychotic and can't comprehend reality. Obama's a hardcore communist. McCain was a doddering fool moderate Republican who would get deceived by the Left every now and then. Obama is trying to destroy this country, McCain would certainly have not made it more capitalist, but he wouldn't have been nearly as despotic as this current impostor.

But don't let me stop any of you in your quest for perfect cognitive dissonance, it's just as pathetic as when you parrot Obama's communist talking points, only more sad.
 
Perry is down but not out, although I have basically consigned myself to being satisfied if Romney wins the presidency.
So how is that working out for you, HB? You know; settling for a mormon moron to lead the fight against your most hated enemy?


Congratulations, all of you fucking idiots are playing right into their hands.
Actually, if you don't like Obama as your prez, then the only one on this thread "Playing right into their hands" is YOU, fool.

Dr. Paul is the ONLY candidate running that would be able to hold a candle to Obama in a debate. Not Romney, and certainly not your butt buddy in boots.

It's time to ask yourself this, Hellboy: Do you want Obama to debate against a Mormon who is not half the debater he is? Or do you want Obama to debate against someone who WILL CLEAN THE FUCKING FLOOR WITH HIS ENTRAILS?

Even you can't deny that Paul is the best debater you've ever listened to. 30 Years of leading the exact same charge will do that to you.

So bottom line; if you don't actively support Ron Paul at this point, YOU help Obama get back in the whitehouse.

Live with that on your conscience, fucktard.
 
So how is that working out for you, HB? You know; settling for a mormon moron to lead the fight against your most hated enemy?



Actually, if you don't like Obama as your prez, then the only one on this thread "Playing right into their hands" is YOU, fool.

Dr. Paul is the ONLY candidate running that would be able to hold a candle to Obama in a debate. Not Romney, and certainly not your butt buddy in boots.

It's time to ask yourself this, Hellboy: Do you want Obama to debate against a Mormon who is not half the debater he is? Or do you want Obama to debate against someone who WILL CLEAN THE FUCKING FLOOR WITH HIS ENTRAILS?

Even you can't deny that Paul is the best debater you've ever listened to. 30 Years of leading the exact same charge will do that to you.

So bottom line; if you don't actively support Ron Paul at this point, YOU help Obama get back in the whitehouse.

Live with that on your conscience, fucktard.

That's absurd. Your best argument is that Romney will not win an election against Obama? That Ron Paul stands a better chance of winning than Romney? THAT'S your best argument? Sir, you must be smoking crack.

Romney LOOKS more presidential, his debating skills are equal to, if not better than, Paul's. He has a much better organization, without Obama's people helping Ron Paul he would dissipate, Obama could easily destroy Ron Paul as a loon, Romney has the economic/business background, no skeletons in his closet, the WORST you can say about him in a Republican primary is that he is conserva-lite. What's the worst you can say about him in a general election? "He's in the pocket of corporations"? That's OWS lunacy that most levelheaded Americans sneer at.

He doesn't have fringe wacko political ideas that would marginalize him, not to mention there is a anti-Obama tsunami coming in 2012. Put up Romney and he will ride that wave into the White House. Put up Ron Paul and even that wave would not be enough to carry him to victory because you will not find a majority in America that would elect an 80-year old man who wants to give Iran nuclear weapons, NO MATTER WHAT his ruminations are vis a vis the Federal Reserve. Because even 65-year old Sue Betty in Wisconsin understands that Iran is run by religious fanatics looking to usher in the Apocalypse through nuclear chaos. So it's literally the ONE area that Obama would have a Republican candidate beat, and it would be in foreign policy!! Are you trying to hand him a second term, you entire collection of blathering idiots??

You people are fucking delusional.
 
You people are fucking delusional.
You believe the left right paradigm is actually meaningful. Now that's what I would call delusional.

You believe that attacking people makes you righteous and moral. You believe people are going to agree with you even if you treat them badly and call them names.

I would call that delusional.

You actually think a candidate who can't get more than 25% in his own party after campaigning for 6 years with every conceivable advantage is going to beat Obama.

That's delusional. Here is a heads up, because I called Perry to you months ago.

Romney will struggle to get the GOP nomination, and lose in the Presidential for one reason only. He is a Mormon, and Christian conservatives will never elect a Mormon.

There is an outside chance that if Paul outlasts Perry and Gingrich, he'll be the Christian candidate, because as much as Christian conservatives love war, they hate Mormonism even more.

Stop reading Red State. Those guys are naive idiots.

The GOP is going nowhere without Ron Paul voters. Sarah Palin gets it, and so should you.
 
You believe the left right paradigm is actually meaningful. Now that's what I would call delusional.

You believe that attacking people makes you righteous and moral. You believe people are going to agree with you even if you treat them badly and call them names.

I would call that delusional.

This is WF. You can call me delusional in your second sentence all you want, but don't play the Miss Manners card. You more than anyone else know the culture of this place, more than anyone else SHOULD know the absurd monolithic vitriol emanating from the Left here. Let me know where you've ever protested against it and I'll actually listen to that line of attack. I attack them, treat them badly, and call them names because I know they won't change their minds regardless, so in that case I won't bother to sugarcoat the truth.

But here's a clue. Simply saying brave lines like "the left/right paradigm is meaningless" don't actually make it meaningless, just like saying gravity doesn't exist doesn't actually stop you from breaking your neck when you walk off a tall building. Dianne Feinstein is ideologically different from Paul Ryan. Barack Obama is ideologically different from Jim Demint. Nancy Pelosi is ideologically different from Rand Paul. That's what's called a logically correct paradigm. One half falls on the left, the other half on the right. Now you can argue that those people have inconsistencies in their position, you can argue that they are not always ideologically pure, but to say that there is no difference between those two sets of people is INSANE. Hopefully you're a big enough boy to not get your feelings hurt by that.

You actually think a candidate who can't get more than 25% in his own party after campaigning for 6 years with every conceivable advantage is going to beat Obama.

Huge misrepresentation. Romney barely focused on Iowa, he has almost no base there, Obama's operatives are all over it pumping up RP's numbers, and he still won! Santorum has no shot and shouldn't even be in it, which means Romney's margin of victory should have been even bigger. I can't believe I'm hearing Ron Paul people actually try to argue that Romney can't beat Obama in a general election. THIS is the depths they have to go to in order to drive people towards Ron Paul.

Romney will struggle to get the GOP nomination, and lose in the Presidential for one reason only. He is a Mormon, and Christian conservatives will never elect a Mormon.

Stop reading Red State. Those guys are naive idiots.

Perhaps ordinarily, but this is a pivotal election. The people understand who Obama is, what he is trying to do, and how important it is to stop him. The opponent simply needs to be clean, professional, not kooky, and possess a decent amount of credentials. Romney fits the bill. He won't sweep you off your feet with his soaring rhetoric, he won't drive you wild with his ideological positions, but he's a good, safe bet. The anti-Obama vote will flock to him, whether that be Christian, atheist, white, black, gay, whatever. People will set EVERYTHING aside in order to evict Obama from the White House.

Out of most of the idiots here, I feel for you since you seem to possess some intelligence. I can only assume that your desperate need for some type of political authenticity has found its outlet in RP, because his economic message is so pure in its accuracy. The problem then is that you are willing to let everything else slide with him. You can say that RP is a bad candidate while still agreeing with everything he says on economic policy, it doesn't make you disloyal. It simply means you're realistic about the way the world works.

And I don't read RedState. I don't read any "conservative" publications like NRO/Weekly Standard/Hot Air etc.., because I find them to be naive and clueless, just like 99% of the Ron Paul "hope and change" fanatics in here.
 
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Dems and Repubs may espouse different agendas and vote for different bills, but they all want to overspend. How hard is this to see?
 
Thought this was interesting, I just Googled "Iowa Caucus Results" and the first result is a picture and article of Ron Paul.

Looks like he is getting some Google love!
 
Ugh, faux news last night. "It is going to be a Santorum landslide!! It is going to be a Santorum landslide!!"

Last 5 seconds, "Ron Paul won't win because he was ranked 3rd coming into this...."

Then fade into Simpsons.