Obama is the dumbest liar in history

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i'm not american but the buzz around obama is immense, i definitely think he'll win. i get the impression from him that he's a tony blair character, talks the left talk but then discreetly has right policies. hopefully anyway
 
Haha. That says more about you than Obama. Watch Fox News a lot?

Yeah but your opinion doesn't count coz you believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories

I'm inclined to agree.

Very sad to think that they would do that for whichever of a number of reasons, but not the first time and won't be the last time a government is happy to sacrifice innocent lives for the sake of (what it sees as) the greater good.
Anybody that's retarded enough to think the US government had any part in 9/11, I stop talking to because it's obvious they're a loon
 
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Yeah but your opinion doesn't count coz you believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories

Anybody that's retarded enough to think the US government had any part in 9/11, I stop talking to because it's obvious they're a loon

Yeah, I lean in that direction but in truth I don't know. I believe nothing - just have a lot of ideas! As unbelievable as that theory is, it's slightly more believable than the suggestion that a handful of young Saudi men, not long out of flight school, executed outstanding aeronautical feats - nigh on impossible for experienced fighter pilots to perform - whilst the largest air force in the world just happened to be elsewhere (etc, etc).

The only thing about this I do strongly believe is that we don't know the full story. If that puts me in the same camp as that wanker Alex Jones then so be it, rather that than be bunched with the mindless sheeple who happily lap up everything they are fed.

Saying someone's opinion doesn't count just because it happens to be different to your own isn't exactly a sign of maturity, and resorting to insults implies that you are incapable of constructing a logical argument based on the evidence at hand.

Peace.
 
I hope he does, God knows I do - how else will I get unfiltered news about the new 'political messiah' and his 'crusade of hope' to help the little guy?

Don't worry, Rupert Murdoch's reach is far and wide. There are plenty of other places you can receive his messages of peace and love, although some of his outlets may be a bit high-brow for the average sheeple.... MySpace for instance.
 
Wow - I can't believe a politician would play dress up like that.

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I guess that must mean Bush is a secret Kazakhstani, or whatever the fuck traditional garb he's rockin'.

And don't get me started on Fox News.
#1 - Caught faking opinion polls, using planted ops: FedTube.org - Power Corrupts...Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely » Blog Archive » FOX News Exposed as a fraud

#2 Caught using Photoshop to try and make people that oppose FoxNews look slightly fucked up: Media Matters - Fox News airs altered photos of NY Times reporters

I could go on, but why? If you still consider Fox to be a legitimate news source, go crawl into Bill O'Reilly's lap and get comfy. I stopped trying to educate idiots many years ago.

By the way, I don't even like Obama. But citing Fox as a news source, is like citing The Onion, just not as funny.
 
I stopped trying to educate idiots many years ago.

Good idea, so I'll refrain from explaining the lack legitimacy of your two sources, namely fedtube and mediamatters....

truly this vicious cycle will never end.... I will never stop being a self sufficient, self reliant conservative, and liberals will never stop being whiny, tax-em-to-death, punish-the-successful, self loathing, USA hating, hand-out babies.

I guess it's whatever tit you decide to clench your mouth to huh?
 
Good idea, so I'll refrain from explaining the lack legitimacy of your two sources, namely fedtube and mediamatters....

truly this vicious cycle will never end.... I will never stop being a self sufficient, self reliant conservative, and liberals will never stop being whiny, tax-em-to-death, punish-the-successful, self loathing, USA hating, hand-out babies.

I guess it's whatever tit you decide to clench your mouth to huh?

Two sources? You conveniently forgot the 3rd source: whitehouse.gov. The photo of your daddy playing dress up.
 
You're wasting your time LostsOfZeros. The far left loons here can't argue with facts. For example, I see the word "diplomacy" in your previous post but where does the word "terrorist" appear? I rest my case.
 
We KNOW Bush goes to church - not sure WHAT that militant place is in Chicago that Barack has been attending (for 20 years). You know, that place where Reverend Wright spreads his sermons of hate (for whites and America).
 
...and liberals will never stop being whiny, tax-em-to-death, punish-the-successful, self loathing, USA hating, hand-out babies.

The far left loons here can't argue with facts...

More insults... hmmm. The right is more authoritarian, the left more laissez faire? The right more aggressive? More willing to drop insults along with bombs? Generalising a lot, but there must be some reason why those on the right of the political spectrum seem more prone to name-calling rather than reasoned debate.

I doubt anyone here is on the far left or right though.. .Karl Marx is at Digital Point seeing how something that works with a small group falls to shit when you let everyone in... and Mussolini is getting rich fucking over the little people at the Warrior Forum.
 
More willing to drop insults along with bombs?

Sure - maybe the insults are our way of making up for the pussies that are clearly not dropping enough of those bombs. "Let's sit down with Iran and open a dialog"... screw Iran. Blow them away before they make attempts to 'Wipe Israel from the map'.

I got news for you Hippy, we live in a dangerous world where people want to kill us Americans and we have to be proactive in dealing with that element. Like many of my friends in Canada have said "Much of the world hates you guys because you have everything, it's envy that makes them attack you.... but it's because it gets lonely at the top and one thing I can say about you guys in the states is you don't just talk about it... you step up to the plate and take care of shit, even when it's not popular to do so"

It saddens me when I know more Canadians who have a better sense of justice and sovereignty towards the USA than some of my own neighbors.
 
Sure - maybe the insults are our way of making up for the pussies that are clearly not dropping enough of those bombs. "Let's sit down with Iran and open a dialog"... screw Iran. Blow them away before they make attempts to 'Wipe Israel from the map'.

I got news for you Hippy, we live in a dangerous world where people want to kill us Americans and we have to be proactive in dealing with that element. Like many of my friends in Canada have said "Much of the world hates you guys because you have everything, it's envy that makes them attack you.... but it's because it gets lonely at the top and one thing I can say about you guys in the states is you don't just talk about it... you step up to the plate and take care of shit, even when it's not popular to do so"

It saddens me when I know more Canadians who have a better sense of justice and sovereignty towards the USA than some of my own neighbors.

Lol! Don't worry, the US won't be at the top for much longer. When China starts cashing in those bonds America might starting treating her friends as equals and maybe find a cure for her loneliness.
 
I'm sorry, bro but China will never be on top. Anyone who claims that cannot be taken seriously. Chinese people are dedicated, hard working and such, but creativity is what rules the world. America is the land of ideas and inventions. No country like China will ever even come close to having any sort of leadership role in the world whatsoever.
 
I'm sorry, bro but China will never be on top. Anyone who claims that cannot be taken seriously. Chinese people are dedicated, hard working and such, but creativity is what rules the world. America is the land of ideas and inventions. No country like China will ever even come close to having any sort of leadership role in the world whatsoever.

Maybe not political leadership - but you can't argue the economic powerhouse China COULD turn into. They pretty much OWN us financially right now - and it's going to get worse.

Your stimulus check for example came from China :)

If I wasn't a level headed fellow I'd be concerned that there was a coordinated effort to debase our currency enough that we could merge with Mexico and Canada as a North American Union or something. I'd probably also start to wonder about the Trans America Highway. I'd probably wonder if the erosion of our rights, and even the rule of law was designed to facilitate that to some extent.

Thankfully I'm not a whack job. I think we just have a bunch of dumb ass congressmen and senators that are doing whatever they want for special interests and ignoring the people that are electing them. I'd feel better if more American's gave a rats ass - but even my wife could care less. Out of every 300 people probably only 1 person knows enough about current events to keep up with politics at all.

If all you do is watch leno - and the prime time news you don't really know shit. If you listen to Rush or other AM talk shows you really don't know shit.

Obama isn't going to change much (remember congress, senate). Let's face it - the presidents powers are limited - and no one pretends otherwise. The president CAN NOT raise your taxes, can't declare war with out congress's consent, etc..

Listen to Obama or McCain is like listening to white fuzz on the radio - it's all bullshit. The candidates who speak the truth don't get elected - because 299 people out of 300 want to believe the bullshit.


Night - my rum and I are going to bed now.
 
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