One man wolf packs, what gets you going?

Drinking, drugs, hanging with depressing people that do the same is not the place for someone dealing with issues. You need to get around successful positive people.

Yeah, but I hardly know anyone anymore. As a matter of fact, I feel like I dont want to even see anybody right now... Just want to lock the door, turn off the cell phone and try to figure it out on my own. Had people coming over, don't think it influences me for the better.

Someone mentioned getting a job, to be honest the job is good but it is the routine and forced interaction with others that can snap you back into reality.
I do work on-site a 1-2 days a week, have my own come in time and dress code though.

Second - consider the words of your ex - "stop seeing yourself as a victim" that you admitted in post 4. This is an elusive concept (to men) that you need to talk to a counselor about because it is all to real in many people. I can tell she is right by reading your posts, but most men are not equipped to understand what they are feeling. You need a counselor, really. If you cannot afford one then find a woman that you trust, and do not want to screw, that will explain the concept to you. I cannot nail it for you, but trust me, the way you word your posts makes it clear that you have these martyr/victim/self destructive behavior - and stop lying to yourself, you say "F it who cares anyway" but what you are saying is that you do not know how to deal with the emotions and feelings that are being put onto you by others and by yourself. You need to sort this shit out or it will follow you the rest of your life.

Even calling yourself a "Wolf" is interesting. You are claiming your status as a pack animal without a pack. Think on that for awhile. Sounds like you need some pack reinforcement and routine.

One man wolf pack is just a line from hangover... I do need my pack back, but I am just confused. The whole argument ended with me blowing up and saying a lot of shit I didn't mean to say. Since then, I tried talking to her for a few days but she got shut down, so I just left and got an apartment, which is probably a mistake too. I don't know... I guess I just need time. I am still trying to fix things, but not to the point where I am not myself anymore or admitting that its all my fault.

As for the council, we started going to marriage classes before all of this... I don't think it helped me...
 


Alcohol doesn't help shit, EVER. If you think it helps you that's only because you're drunk.

There's no such thing as a "cut and bruised heart" unless you literally need heart surgery. Emotions are for women, leave it that way. Realize what you have to do and either do it, or continue down your self-destructive path.
 
The absolute best thing you can do to pass time is to productively use it by spending quality time with your kids and working hard.

Keep moving forward, you'll regret not doing so in the future. Besides, you have all these emotions pushing you.

Time heals all.
 
Thanks. Its been almost 2 months now since I moved to an apartment. First month went by fast and blurry... I don't live at home much now, just going from friend to friend, taking time off, drinking and trying to have some fun. Having kids over the weekends, trying to have some fun with them too so its easier on them.

Ended up in emergency room at the end of December, couldn't sleep and eat for 5 days or so... Had some ambien, but still couldn't sleep or eat for another couple of days. Was just going crazy. Never refilled the prescription, fuck the pills. All this happened while I was trying to sit at home, just think in the dark, trying to sort things out.

But then old friends started calling me and coming over, and I stopped thinking. Beer + fun + some movies before falling asleep right after the first 5-10 minutes of the movie - best medicine. So for now, just going from place to place, taking time off. Going to east coast next week for a week, may be see some old friends there, relax... Then, probably moving to Portland, and will try to come back every other weekend here to see the kids.

Left everything I had except my desk and computers, got and older car that broke up in a fucking month. Will fix it, just need to get another check this week. :) Working just enough to pay for the bills right now, but this will change in a few weeks. I feel a lot better now, just sucks being by myself after 7 years of marriage. Need to change the way my brain works now, forget and move on.

Being on my own, I realized that I am not what I want to be and was not going in the right direction... Got used to easy life. Gave too much of control over things to a girl, never again. Got lazy. Now setting myself for the new way. Fuck everything, just do what I need to do. Grind, get as high up as I can, provide for the kids and help out the people who showed their support when I needed it, even though some's lives are fucked up more then mine. But everything is fixable. Just can't fix stupid I guess.

My plans got ruined, I sold some of my ideas and will have to work on them for a paycheck for the first few months, or a year, until I get to the point where I can start all over. But I think it may be better this way as I need to get the divorce finalized before I start something new.

Have one hottie hitting on me now, but keeping the distance. Don't feel like I need it right now, just staying friendly... feel that I need to get all the crap taken care of, have everything finalized, get some personal things done, and set myself back up to stability.

Setting myself with the new goals, I hope that I passed my bottom and the only way to go from here is up. For now, rest a bit, get focus, settle the old shit, change the way of thinking, grind, rebuild some bridges, learn some new things, and keep on walking.
 
Setting myself with the new goals, I hope that I passed my bottom and the only way to go from here is up. For now, rest a bit, get focus, settle the old shit, change the way of thinking, grind, rebuild some bridges, learn some new things, and keep on walking.

Sounds like things are improving a bit already. The end of a relationship is tough, and a marriage I'd imagine is even tougher. Don't beat yourself up for feeling shitty over it. If you go through hard times you are allowed to feel bad. A lot of guys don't realise this, and when shit happens they end up falling deeper into a hole of low self worth.

My advice is to only drink with your friends, and not alone. Also, throw yourself into your work. Financial success will bring a huge amount of self esteem.
 
Sounds like things are improving a bit already... Don't beat yourself up for feeling shitty over it...

Yeah, getting over it. Just being able to sleep and eat makes me happy now. :) Instead of feeling crappy for myself, I'm starting to feel mad and sorry for her. Gets a lot easier when you stop giving a shit about pretty much everything you valued before and start seeing that there are other important things in life you didn't see before.

My advice is to only drink with your friends, and not alone. Also, throw yourself into your work. Financial success will bring a huge amount of self esteem.

I do mostly... But when I'm home, I don't see a problem atm popping a cold beer or two. Better than taking the prescription shit they prescribed.

Throwing myself into work, yeah, but not yet. Need another week or so, need to clear my head before getting back to the grind.
 
Thread cliff notes:

1. tatrasim makes thread about his traumatic divorce experience, looking for sympathetic nods from fellow WFers; he proceeds to down cheap whiskey and $10 blowjobs from the local single mom stripper

2. WF tells him to STFU and man up. No sympathy was given.

3. tatrasim backwards rationalize and denies responsibility

4. tatrasim comes back a month later, slightly more motivated to work; it's not reported whether he still gets $10 blowjobs from the local middle age stripper.
 
You won't find an American woman that'll align with your mindset since they're all brainwashed. Find a foreign wife, she'll take care of the kids and the home stuff, you get your ass back to work and provide for the family. Everybody wins.