Sim City 5



CCarter said:
I'm getting internet at my house just for this game. Fuck it.
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Wait you have no internet in your house?
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Game is awesome and you'll love it if you like sim games.

Problem is getting to play the game is a total mess right now. All hours of the day and night they are having connectivity problems. So if you buy it right now prepare to be frustrated.
 
jlu87 said:
I'm on Chrono Trigger at the moment...
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That's my favorite game of all time. I played the shit out of Chrono Trigger when I was a kid.

Sim City is up there too. I'd like to buy this. I really can't stand the DRM though. It makes me feel like I don't own something I paid for.
 
scottspfd82 said:
That's my favorite game of all time. I played the shit out of Chrono Trigger when I was a kid.

Sim City is up there too. I'd like to buy this. I really can't stand the DRM though. It makes me feel like I don't own something I paid for.
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Wonder if EA will crack under this pressure. Maybe an offline version is possible...
 
I've always loved Sim City, and looking forward to finally having an update after 10 years. I'll probably buy this once their servers aren't terribly overloaded.

With that being said their DRM is terrible and I do my best to avoid EA games because of it.
 
lukep said:
Beautiful. I'm so tempted... Spent a quite of lot of my university time ditching classes to play Sim City 1. ;)

Here's a better vid of in-game play for showing its' capabilities:
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You shouldn't be playing it, just keep your hands off and let anarchy build the perfect utopian city!
 
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johnmatrix said:
You shouldn't be playing it, just keep your hands off and let anarchy build the perfect utopian city!
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If you want to go there (I know you jest)...

...Here's what happens when you simulate thousands of years of statism over a decade in a video game.

I've been playing the same game of Civ II for 10 years. Though long outdated, I grew fascinated with this particular game because by the time Civ III was released, I was already well into the distant future. I then thought that it might be interesting to see just how far into the future I could get and see what the ramifications would be. Naturally I play other games and have a life, but I often return to this game when I'm not doing anything and carry on. The results are as follows.
The world is a hellish nightmare of suffering and devastation.
There are 3 remaining super nations in the year 3991 A.D, each competing for the scant resources left on the planet after dozens of nuclear wars have rendered vast swaths of the world uninhabitable wastelands.
-The ice caps have melted over 20 times (somehow) due primarily to the many nuclear wars. As a result, every inch of land in the world that isn't a mountain is inundated swamp land, useless to farming. Most of which is irradiated anyway.
-As a result, big cities are a thing of the distant past. Roughly 90% of the worlds population (at it's peak 2000 years ago) has died either from nuclear annihilation or famine caused by the global warming that has left absolutely zero arable land to farm. Engineers (late game worker units) are always busy continuously building roads so that new armies can reach the front lines. Roads that are destroyed the very next turn when the enemy goes. So there isn't any time to clear swamps or clean up the nuclear fallout.
-Only 3 super massive nations are left. The Celts (me), The Vikings, And the Americans. Between the three of us, we have conquered all the other nations that have ever existed and assimilated them into our respective empires.
-You've heard of the 100 year war? Try the 1700 year war. The three remaining nations have been locked in an eternal death struggle for almost 2000 years. Peace seems to be impossible. Every time a cease fire is signed, the Vikings will surprise attack me or the Americans the very next turn, often with nuclear weapons. Even when the U.N forces a peace treaty. So I can only assume that peace will come only when they're wiped out. It is this that perpetuates the war ad infinitum. Have any of you old Civ II players out there ever had this problem in the post-late game?
-Because of SDI, ICBMS are usually only used against armies outside of cities. Instead, cities are constantly attacked by spies who plant nuclear devices which then detonate (something I greatly miss from later civ games). Usually the down side to this is that every nation in the world declares war on you. But this is already the case so its no longer a deterrent to anyone. My self included.
-The only governments left are two theocracies and myself, a communist state. I wanted to stay a democracy, but the Senate would always over-rule me when I wanted to declare war before the Vikings did. This would delay my attack and render my turn and often my plans useless. And of course the Vikings would then break the cease fire like clockwork the very next turn. Something I also miss in later civ games is a little internal politics. Anyway, I was forced to do away with democracy roughly a thousand years ago because it was endangering my empire. But of course the people hate me now and every few years since then, there are massive guerrilla (late game barbarians) uprisings in the heart of my empire that I have to deal with which saps resources from the war effort.
-The military stalemate is air tight. The post-late game in civ II is perfectly balanced because all remaining nations already have all the technologies so there is no advantage. And there are so many units at once on the map that you could lose 20 tank units and not have your lines dented because you have a constant stream moving to the front. This also means that cities are not only tiny towns full of starving people, but that you can never improve the city. "So you want a granary so you can eat? Sorry; I have to build another tank instead. Maybe next time."
-My goal for the next few years is to try and end the war and thus use the engineers to clear swamps and fallout so that farming may resume. I want to rebuild the world. But I'm not sure how. If any of you old Civ II players have any advice, I'm listening.
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I've been playing the same game of Civilization II for almost 10 years. This is the result. : gaming

Sounds about right. Never ending war, nuclear annihilation, forced communism, mass starvation, 90% of the population is wiped out, the world evolved into 3 giant superpowers...

Just sayin', if you want to bring this thread there ;)
 
Alright, so I did a bit more of research on this game and it just keeps getting worse and worse. EA.. what have you done..

I found some interesting reviews on Amazons's product page, here are some snippets:

Malor said:
So, in this iteration of the game, you don't even get to buy your toy. Rather, you rent a toy from EA, who lets you play with it only in very limited, circumscribed ways, only on their servers. So you have to have a live Internet connection at all times, and their servers have to be up, and have to have space for you. And the rules for play are draconian. If you want to, say, build a city, save it, blow it up with something terrible, and then restore from save, you can't do that anymore. That's an unauthorized usage of their toy. And if you figure out ways of using their toy that they don't like, they'll ban you forever.

All third-party modding is shut out. One of the best parts of SimCity 4 and The Sims is that users can create and share content among themselves for free. You will no longer be able to do this. You will be required to run only Official Authorized Content.

Further, you're not getting the whole game for your $60 or $80, depending on what version you're buying. EA's plan is to sell you Simcity 5 over and over and over. They've directly admitted that they already have it running with larger cities, but they're not releasing that now. They claim it's because it "won't run on Dad's PC", but the real reason is so they can sell it to you again later. Want subways? That's gonna be $20. Want railroads? Another $20. Bigger cities? Oh, that's in the $30 expansion.
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Matrix said:
Online DRM - I know everyone complains about this. I was willing to deal with it. Then the servers went down and I couldn't play. Is it first day issues? I'm not sure but it was almost ironic when the servers went down.

City Size - Of course a huge complaint, other reviews mention this. Filled up my entire town in a little over an hour.

Diversity of buildings - Where are all the buildings I want to build? I'm talking places like Museums, Churches, Zoo's, Post Offices, etc. etc. I can think of tons of missing content. Were these left out so EA can sell us buildings for $1 each later down the road?

Transportation - So far it seems all you get are buses. No Train stations, no subways, etc. I do believe you can build an airport eventually.

The whole "Upgrade town hall to unlock stuff" - Seems silly and unnecessary. I can't build a hospital because I already used my TownHall upgrade for something unrelated so I have to wait.

It's hard to really say all the issues with the game in just bullet points. One of the biggest issues I have is simply with the density of zones. Let me paint a picture for you. You have a nice suburban part of your town, where say you want your middle to upper class to live. They would live on nice single lane roads with maybe some cul da sacs shooting off that road etc. You can build the road system, and then zone it for residential. That's it.... So what happens? You get mobile homes all over, and the only way to get the houses to "upgrade" to nicer establishment is to put parks/recreation all over nearby (and their effect is small size wise). Or you have to upgrade the road. Now who lives on a 4 lane road in a mansion? Not many people I can think of. It's absolutely idiotic.

The game is definitely driven to have you share resources with neighboring regions. If you try to do it all in your one small city, you're in for a mess. So you have to essentially pause your game, and go to another city and start fresh there. Whether in the other city it's creating better jobs, or focusing on utilities to provide to your other city, etc.
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I don't know.. I want to buy the game and all, but it just keeping getting shittier..
 
I might get it, looks pretty cool.

Look at the reviews on Amazon though hahah
 
conjamuk said:
LOL never trust metacritic user reviews. Most of those are from the retards at 4chans /v/ board complaining about drm not how good the game actually is. They rated the same for Mass Effect 3 which was a decent game. Play the game yourself and judge it.
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No, vs the previous 2, Mass Effect 3 wasn't that great. Felt hella short. The ending was a joke.
 
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