Street Self Defense

Ahhh, the smell of testosterone.

The bad thing about it? It makes you act like a frigging idiot.

Even if (this being an internet forum --> IF <-- you know how to fight, avoid fights at all costs.

I did a lot of Martial Arts - Karate, Aikido, Capoeira, etc.. and still the best advice you get by any trainer who is worth his salt is "If you can, RUN!"

A fight is often decided on random events, even a stoned out junkie can land a lucky blow against a trained opponent. If he is brandishing a knife, that's it.

If you can, RUN!

Only fight if there is no way out.

Your friend did the exact right thing and went from the situation to where he could get help / public attention.

I know this advice is gonna make me sound like a pussy, but I don't care.
Martial Artists get hurt in street fights, Guns and other weapons are often used against the one bringing them to the fight in the first place.
Actually using a weapon might get you into a lot more trouble than the situation is worth.

If you can, RUN!

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greenleaves said:
Every weapon can be taken from you. Saying that is redundant. If you have qualms about that, accept not having a weapon.

Regarding the close range nature of the baton, sure, but most non-lethal weapons, including pepper spray, involve a certain proximity to your aggressor. In fact, that is part of the whole deal they are intended for situations where the aggressor has approached you and you want to get away. A quick baton hit to the knee, head, or groin area and you have effectively immobilized your opponent.
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This will probably work on 90% of the assailants you will meet on the street, but there is always going to be that one thats hopped up on PCP, Cocaine, whatever and a baton is just gonna piss him off. Like swatting at Bee's. Or worse you hit him with the Baton and he stabs or shoots the shit outta you.

I agree, running should always be your first choice, but I'm not turning my back on an assailant until I know he's not going to stab me in the back or jump me from behind.
 
emp said:
Ahhh, the smell of testosterone.

The bad thing about it? It makes you act like a frigging idiot.

Even if (this being an internet forum --> IF <-- you know how to fight, avoid fights at all costs.

I did a lot of Martial Arts - Karate, Aikido, Capoeira, etc.. and still the best advice you get by any trainer who is worth his salt is "If you can, RUN!"

A fight is often decided on random events, even a stoned out junkie can land a lucky blow against a trained opponent. If he is brandishing a knife, that's it.

If you can, RUN!

Only fight if there is no way out.

Your friend did the exact right thing and went from the situation to where he could get help / public attention.

I know this advice is gonna make me sound like a pussy, but I don't care.
Martial Artists get hurt in street fights, Guns and other weapons are often used against the one bringing them to the fight in the first place.
Actually using a weapon might get you into a lot more trouble than the situation is worth.

If you can, RUN!

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This is really true, although in real life I've never been able to actually do it, the testosterone always takes over. I realize I could have been killed a few times over, but atleast I have some cool stories to tell...

That being said, I haven't been in a fist-fight since I've turned 30, my 20's OH MY GOD did I fight and fight well. I don't even have the same confidence to fight as I did back then either, I'd probably run out of wind now, lol...
 
Told the story to my GF last night, who is just a little thing, and told her I was buying her pepper spray. She feeds me the same line you get from every girl over the age of 13:

"I know how to take care of myself."

If I have to hear one more 110lb broad claim that she can "take care of herself" just because she has a swiss army knife in her purse, I swear I'll puke. Anyone else hear this mouthful of bullshit from girls? As if a swiss army knife or your fucking community college self defense class is going to mean shit to a 240lb crackhead who grabs you from behind.
 
Funniest self defense video on earth. (Yes they are being serious, yes they tried to sell this as real self defense)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w_q8qEgU88"]Untold Gracie Jiu Jitsu Self Defense Secrets - YouTube[/ame]
 
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Get one of these...

The Chinese War Sword
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQiaurIiDM]Chinese War Sword : Cold Steel Swords - YouTube[/ame]


The War Hammer
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhknaG9ifbs&feature=related]War Hammer : Cold Steel - YouTube[/ame]
 
dogfighter said:
Told the story to my GF last night, who is just a little thing, and told her I was buying her pepper spray. She feeds me the same line you get from every girl over the age of 13:

"I know how to take care of myself."

If I have to hear one more 110lb broad claim that she can "take care of herself" just because she has a swiss army knife in her purse, I swear I'll puke. Anyone else hear this mouthful of bullshit from girls? As if a swiss army knife or your fucking community college self defense class is going to mean shit to a 240lb crackhead who grabs you from behind.
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Very true, my mom...who was an aerobics instructor and personal trainer all her life, is an asskicker amongst women, meaning when she got in fights with girls, she beat the crap out of them. Not slapping and scratching, my mom threw straight punches and left hooks when she fought. Now, I say this not to "brag" or make her look tuff...but to show that she was no frail, defenseless women.

Now, when I was two years old, she was kidnapped by a man posing to be a police officer and he was only 135 lbs. She did exactly what all these bullshit self defense people say, when he grabbed her to throw her in his truck...she grabbed his balls with an iron grip, she said...and squeezed as hard as he could to get him to release his grip.

All he did was reach into his truck, grab a police flash light and smash it into her head. She woke up, some time later, with him trying to stick her with a needle. She started fighting him again and BAM! Flashlight to the head.

The next time she woke up, he had his hands on her throat with her head in his lap. Her hands were tied and she was bloody, beaten and out of it. She was praying, afraid and was terrified that he was going to rape her and then kill her.

All she was thinking about was me growing up with out a mom and she was so afraid of the pain he was going to cause her before he killed her and she was praying to God that they would just get into a wreck before they got where they were going.

And thats when she realized it. A WRECK!!! As she thought this in her head, she went to move her hands and either the ropes were already loose, or they became unloose or God himself untied her...whatever the case...she was able to slip her hands out and reach up and yank on the steering wheel.

He took his hand off of her throat to regain control of steering wheel and she sat up to reach for the door handle. NOPE, he had it removed on the inside...she goes for the window, all the while hes cussing at her "GET YOUR ASS BACK OVER HERE, YOU CUNT!"

My mom, crying and screaming is kicking this guy in the face and arms trying to roll this window down, but he also had the knob removed so she can barely do it. Eventually she gets it down and she rolls out of the window hitting the ground doing 30-50mph, rolling end over end, hitting rocks and concrete, as she tumbles to a bloody halt.

The asshole drives away, as she is hobbling down I-45, bloody and crying for help (in broad day light mind you) as cars just drive past...too busy with their life or too late for work to stop and help.

Luckily a security guard from across the street sees her and comes to her rescue. They never found the asshole (and I wish they would, Id commit a crime just to get locked in the same cell as him), but this did happen on the same stretch of high way as the famous "Killing Fields" on calder and I-45 in Houston and they think she might of been one of 2 or 3 women that got a way. All describe similar situations of this guy posing as a cop. The unlucky ones were raped, tortured and killed and then dumped in a field now famously called "the killing fields".

Back to original point...even strong women are rarely a match for a determined man. We are just built differently...and this guy was only 135lbs...imagine if he was 205.
 
He did the right thing. I would read up on material found at paladin-press.com regarding self defense. A visit to RMCAT would also be money well spent.
 
Again bear mace + run...

Up to 30 ft range.

If their eyes are open for a second they won't be using them for long.
 
papajohn56 said:
yeah I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about, so instead of dismissing the post, maybe you should learn what "Open Carry" is, what states allow it, and why it can be a very good thing:

OpenCarry.org - A Right Unexercised is a Right Lost!

here's a hint: it legally lets you *visibly and openly carry* a holstered firearm.
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It doesn't matter if it is legal. It is stupid. Plenty of stupid things are legal.

Anyone who knows anything about guns doesn't show it until they are going to use it. Only punks, cowboys and retards show a gun without the immediate intention of firing.

Seriously, think about it for more than a second. By showing, you threaten the other person and then give them the opportunity to shoot first. It is the thug/thief/kidnaper/evildoer who picks the place. They are by default more prepared. As you were parading around with your gun, they might have staked it out and know you had it, so can then take it from you immediately (no one on this forum is billy the kid, if confronted with a loaded fire arm, there is no time to draw and shoot, you immediately surrender)

There are NO advantages in life or death safety to open carry. The only thing it can be good for is for people with weak egos to feel strong against un-armed punks who are physically stronger.

I'm not against open carry being legal. In fact, retards fucking around with each other is something I have no problem with at all. It is evolution that the tards kill themselves off.
 
greenleaves said:
It doesn't matter if it is legal. It is stupid. Plenty of stupid things are legal.

Anyone who knows anything about guns doesn't show it until they are going to use it. Only punks, cowboys and retards show a gun without the immediate intention of firing.

Seriously, think about it for more than a second. By showing, you threaten the other person and then give them the opportunity to shoot first. It is the thug/thief/kidnaper/evildoer who picks the place. They are by default more prepared. As you were parading around with your gun, they might have staked it out and know you had it, so can then take it from you immediately (no one on this forum is billy the kid, if confronted with a loaded fire arm, there is no time to draw and shoot, you immediately surrender)

There are NO advantages in life or death safety to open carry. The only thing it can be good for is for people with weak egos to feel strong against un-armed punks who are physically stronger.

I'm not against open carry being legal. In fact, retards fucking around with each other is something I have no problem with at all. It is evolution that the tards kill themselves off.
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You're confusing open carry with brandishing (which is illegal).
 
Beach Affiliate said:
You're confusing open carry with brandishing (which is illegal).
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Nope not confusing it. I know what it is. And I think it is stupid. As a libertarian, I don't think it is the gov's job to restrict it. I think it should be legal. Even if the people who do it are for the most part are stupid for doing it.

There is no strategic advantages, only disadvantages in life-death situations for open carry. Only non-priority advantages exist to open carry (to avoid fist fights, to show power over un-armed punks, etc)

@ papa
You say:

get a gun, you may live in an open carry state. nobody spits on the guy with a visible holstered 9mm
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you are right. Nobody spits on a guy with a visible holstered 9mm. But when something big might go down (robbery, kidnap, etc), the people who staked the guy visibly carrying will be able to remove the weapon from that man because they get to do the first move.

While the guy concealing might get spit on, he will blow the fucking brains out of the guys who were staking him out and who have no clue they are messing with someone who is carrying.

Call me crazy, but I prefer to be prepared for a serious situation, and possibly deal with getting spit on.
 
Kiopa_Matt said:
Get like a "civilian" styled tazer gun. Like one of these:

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I don't know about over there, but they sell them all over the place here.
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I have bigger one...
:frenchman:
 
I train with Rotzee @ the same BJJ school. Most assholes on the street are just trying to be tough. Put them on their back on the cold concrete and things change very quickly.

Gun is probably the best defense, but you can't always justify using a gun.

It's a lot easier to say "this drunk/crazy guy fell"
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8mBe0_Ha78]Bas Rutten Instructional Vid - the funniest - YouTube[/ame]

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And please allow me to point out that the Krav Maga guy is THE BEST IN THE WORLD. You won't be able to do that without YEARS of training
 
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