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Yes. In your fucking face popeye. America has spoken, and it seems you are totally out of touch with the majority of the American people.

349 vs. 163
52% vs. 46%

I hope, for the sake of your party, that the rest of the republicans aren't like you; that they are willing to rethink their obviously wrong position.
 
I like guys like popeye who thinks which presidential candidate would make a difference in America's future. It's just an illusion of choice.

Different faces, same convert agenda.

Go back to sleep, Popeye. You look butthurt.
 
Yes. In your fucking face popeye. America has spoken, and it seems you are totally out of touch with the majority of the American people.

349 vs. 163
52% vs. 46%

I hope, for the sake of your party, that the rest of the republicans aren't like you; that they are willing to rethink their obviously wrong position.

You wouldn't know "obviously wrong" if it dropped a load on your face.

There is a big difference between a country that wants to distance itself from it's current president and conservatives in general being wrong.

I'd like to see the GOP fall to pieces myself, but not because they are wrong ... just gone astray as they no longer stand for what they originally did.

staunch conservative > bleeding heart liberals
 
You wouldn't know "obviously wrong" if it dropped a load on your face.

There is a big difference between a country that wants to distance itself from it's current president and conservatives in general being wrong.

I'd like to see the GOP fall to pieces myself, but not because they are wrong ... just gone astray as they no longer stand for what they originally did.

staunch conservative > bleeding heart liberals

Sorry to burst your bubble, but as of now, Republicans != conservatism. They have drifted a long way from conservative ideals. This is why I used the word "Republican" and not "conservative".

The republicans now need to rethink their stance. They need to listen to not only their base, but the liberals and independents. They need to figure out where they went wrong and how they can fix it. If they don't, they won't get elected again.
 
Look at California. Looks like gay marriage is going to be banned. .

At least my state hasn't gone too liberal.

Stop "idolizing" your candidates!

As far as I can see it, Obama is a socialist and McCain is a liberal. Both of them don't believe in the Constitution (i.e., USA Patriot Act, gun banning, over taxation and unequal taxation of the rich, loss of parenting rights, etc.).

If any of you ever read the constitution and the declaration of independence, you would then have an argument. But until then, we'll be stuck with a non-American nation.

Well, the results appear to show the lesser of two evils didn't win.
 
At least my state hasn't gone too liberal.

Stop "idolizing" your candidates!

As far as I can see it, Obama is a socialist and McCain is a liberal. Both of them don't believe in the Constitution (i.e., USA Patriot Act, gun banning, over taxation and unequal taxation of the rich, loss of parenting rights, etc.).

If any of you ever read the constitution and the declaration of independence, you would then have an argument. But until then, we'll be stuck with a non-American nation.

Well, the results appear to show the lesser of two evils didn't win.

As soon as I read the word "socialist" in your post I knew you were an idiot. This will always be an American nation, whether your candidate won or not. Can the bullshit and expect our country to finally get the President it deserves.
 
As soon as I read the word "socialist" in your post I knew you were an idiot. This will always be an American nation, whether your candidate won or not. Can the bullshit and expect our country to finally get the President it deserves.

Exactly, what I expected--name calling, and no real argument.

It's a straight forward question, have you ever read the Constitution and declaration of independence?
 
Exactly, what I expected--name calling, and no real argument.

It's a straight forward question, have you ever read the Constitution and declaration of independence?

Ironically, you did the same thing by calling the man a socialist without any backup whatsoever. Your calling of an ad-hominem attack is quite laughable. Yes, I have read the constitution and know quite a bit about the declaration of independence; how the declaration of indepdendence is relevant to this discussion is beyond me.

Look, calling the guy a socialist/marxist/communist didn't work this time around. We don't live in the Cold War Era anymore. The American people are smarter than you give them credit for, and the proof is in the numbers.

Enjoy the boost in the economy thats about to come. It's going to benefit us all, especially Affiliate Marketers.
 
Ironically, you did the same thing by calling the man a socialist without any backup whatsoever. Your calling of an ad-hominem attack is quite laughable. Yes, I have read the constitution and know quite a bit about the declaration of independence; how the declaration of indepdendence is relevant to this discussion is beyond me.

Look, calling the guy a socialist/marxist/communist didn't work this time around. We don't live in the Cold War Era anymore. The American people are smarter than you give them credit for, and the proof is in the numbers.

Enjoy the boost in the economy thats about to come. It's going to benefit us all, especially Affiliate Marketers.

I stated that both: McCain is liberal and Obama is a socialist. I never said anything about communism. Communism != Socialism, but I guess you didn't know that.

Obama favors a government mandated distribution of wealth and the USA patriot Act (for example) - this is unconstitutional.

Since you've "read" the Constitution, you know that the USA patriot Act goes against the 5th adn 9th amendments.

You also know he wants more gun control (2nd amendment).

These are just a few. The constitution and declaration of independence are valid in all political arguments.
 
Until the courts overturn it again ;)

If you believe that the courts should govern from the bench then you are part of the problem. Of course if Roe Vs. Wade was overturned by a judge, then of course you would have a problem with it but that double standard is a Liberal trait.

You as well as a lot of Liberals need to decide WHAT you acutally believe in. Do you believe in Democracy? Do you want the will of the people to stand or do you want a few judges deciding the whole countries fate?

You guys are so confused!
 
1) No state went 99% McCain
2)I'm sure you don't have an argument against me income wise(at least I assume we're in the same tax bracket), so given that what about my age makes you feel oh so right? I'm paying the same as you, I obviously follow and comprehend this stuff at least as well as you. So what gives?
bump because I want a response from popeye.
 
What a tool

Sorry to burst your bubble, but as of now, Republicans != conservatism.

I said exactly that. Except it's not "as of now" ... it's been that way for some time now.

If they don't, they won't get elected again.

Check up on some history, you'll see how wrong you are. If you think America is 100% behind this democrat to the point that Republicans will defect to the Democratic party you are mistakenly wrong and deserve another load on your face.

Yes, I have read the constitution

Really? So what does it say about the graduated income tax that Obama is about to max out?

The mother fucking US constitution said:
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons...
apportioned means divided equally ... not rob the rich.
Enjoy the boost in the economy that's about to come. It's going to benefit us all, especially Affiliate Marketers.

consumerism is fickle. No doubt there will be a short term boost in the economy as it's all about the buyer's confidence. Once consumers realize we're still in shit, they will deeply regret blowing their cash. The recession is far from gone just because Obama was elected.

Where's guerilla when you need him? He's much more eloquent on this stuff than I am.

 
bump because I want a response from popeye.

My state went 99% republican locally and state. We have been about 80% in the past and thats why the recession hasn't even reached here yet. In fact my state government has more Republicans in government than at any time in state history. This I hope will be a buffer for me against the new socialist central government.

I don't question your intelligence or income bracket. You seem like a smart guy but like most Liberals you seem to be a bit wishy washy on your ideaology. I don't think that you are willing to call Obama out even if he fucks up while most Republicans are the first to jump on a member of the party that isn't holding true to the values of the party.
 
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons...
Thanks erect. I should have posted that from the Constitution earlier, but overlooked it--for the moment.
 
We definitely don't see eye to eye here.
Is it because I am so short?

Race is NOT a factor at all in how well the President does his job.
I'll give you this for the sake of argument.

It can, however, be a great factor in helping our country usher out the civil rights whiners with a chip on the shoulder. Every man/woman has been equal for quite some time now ... it'll be great to move past all the BS.
We're all equally human, we're not all the same. Men and women are not equal. They are different. But they both have the same human rights.

If we want to have a better world, we need to acknowledge our differences, and stop creating class, sex and race wars by constantly trying to favor one group over another, with the goal of equalization.

Be very cautions when saying it's ok for races to vote for their own ... follow that thought process logically and we'll live in a theocracy in the very near future.
erect, I like you. But you're out to lunch on this one.

First, I have no problem with blacks voting for blacks, or whites for whites. My point being, if you're going to attribute motive to blacks for voting for Obama, then you need to attribute a similar motive to McCain voters. Which is ridiculous. And besides, there are a lot of fucktards who voted, so if they voted on race, that was probably as good a reason as any, considering both candidates sucked.

Second, a theocracy is a religious state. Obama is taking the world in the direction of global socialism. That's different.

Btw, I don't know if people actually understand what is meant by Obama, socialism. It's not that he's going to feed the poor and give everyone health care. No, no. He's going to meddle in the economy, and nationalize private institutions and industries, and socialize the costs to the people. He will reduce prosperity for EVERYONE, not just steal from the rich and give to the poor.

Also, props to this thread. Popeye has repressed homosexual tendencies.
 
We're all equally human, we're not all the same. Men and women are not equal. They are different. But they both have the same human rights.

If we want to have a better world, we need to acknowledge our differences, and stop creating class, sex and race wars by constantly trying to favor one group over another, with the goal of equalization.

While I agree with you on the big picture, racism has been one of the most pressing issues for many generations. There is a big difference between acknowledging & embracing differences and giving certain people exclusive benefits just because of them.

I'm simply stating that now that a minority has been elected, those that scream the loudest can shut the doors on to all the race based organizations, that so greatly divides us, towards this utopia you are speaking of.

We are truly equal in the sense that anyone can grow up to be president. In a sense, I am grateful that Obama was elected just so we can move forward on this issue.

erect, I like you. But you're out to lunch on this one.

Everyone likes a straight shooter. Ironically, I was out having lunch with my daughter when you posted. More to the point, no two people agree on everything ... we should embrace our differences as mentioned above.

First, I have no problem with blacks voting for blacks, or whites for whites. My point being, if you're going to attribute motive to blacks for voting for Obama, then you need to attribute a similar motive to McCain voters. Which is ridiculous. And besides, there are a lot of fucktards who voted, so if they voted on race, that was probably as good a reason as any, considering both candidates sucked.

I think the numbers tell a different story but that's my opinion.

There is no doubt in my mind that some McCain supporters just voted for him because of their racist tendencies. It's not rediculous, I live in the south and I can tell you that as fact. That said, the number of white voters voting for a white candidate did not come anywhere close to 95%.

I disagree that it's ok to vote for someone just because they are white, black, christian (see below), or whatever. That's not celebrating our differences ... that's playing favorites based on bigotry. It's terrible to justify it because they both sucked, it's sending the wrong message.

Second, a theocracy is a religious state. Obama is taking the world in the direction of global socialism. That's different.

It's different on the surface but we're talking about voting practices here. Religion, much like race, should not be a factor. I respected RP for the way he handled this. He posted a page on his site explaining his religious affiliations and pointed people there rather than bring anything religious into debates.

Put this shit on the backburner as it's not a valid issue.

True, it's impossible to ignore things, but there is no way we should be ok with people voting for a christian (jew, muslim, ...) for office just because we believe the same. It's just more narrow minded bigotry
 
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