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Ummm, have I mentioned yet that the Ice Cream truck never stopped for Turbo?
You know when the debate comes to one-liners, the fun is over.
You know when the debate comes to one-liners, the fun is over.
You know, as much as I hate to admit it, in six short words, you have summed up the whole reason for the existence of Acai/Googlecash/Colon Cleanse rebills.
Damn.
Please cite the verses in the New Testament justifying murder in the name of Christianity. You can have as much time as you'd like, which will most likely be a while. Thanks and have a great day, bigot!
I'm just at a loss for words here. You just went off on another HUGE tangent. We ARE NOT arguing about my personal beliefs and whether or not I want to convert you from atheism.
You said nobody was disagreeing with you (about the argument which I brought up). I posted multiple quotes from THIS THREAD pertaining to THIS ARGUMENT, showing people directly disagreeing with you. Your response to that was once again babble about how I'm a theist who just wants you to believe my side. We are not arguing this at all, yet you keep bringing it up.
You said that all religion is equally evil, and that Norway was the most peaceful country because it is 70% atheist (which isn't even a correct fact). You were proven wrong on both accounts of your logic. That is what this entire argument is about. But if you go back and read your own responses, you'll see that every time you're proven wrong, you turn it into a personal attack against me and "theists".
::sigh:: Agree to disagree? Sure dude.
Nor was I trying to convince you. I love you.
You just keep spottin' 'em!
Agreed.
Actually, I just remembered Tiller did late-term abortions - which makes you doubly retarded. Unless you're so moronic as to actually argue a baby in the third trimester is a 'cell bundle'.
I already knew you were going to make this argument which is why I added "at the maximum you're equating adults to incompatible with life fetuses".
Babies in the third term are only allowed to be legally aborted when they are either incompatible with life (they won't survive outside the womb) or the mother's health is in danger.
But, I for damn sure don't want to get into a debate about abortion.
Let's just leave it at liberals totally don't value life. There, you don't even have to wring it out of me.
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Edit: One more thing.... are you trying to argue that Tiller should have been murdered?
Ugh... tldr
People always start talking about how "good christians" don't blow each other up, however I think it is wrong to compare it that way.
I recently had a visitor stay at my place for about two weeks. This person happened to be an American soldier on leave from Afghanistan and they had some very interesting points while discussing this particular topic. The first thing is that most people don't realize that the ones blowing them selves up aren't the ones we're fighting.
Imagine a goat shepherd who doesn't even know that the earth is round. Some guy comes along and tells him that evil Americans are here to kill their children and rape their wives unless they step up to the plate. Yada yada yada 70 virgins and all of that later, and what have they got to loose? The main difference is that they can't even spell, probably don't even know where Africa, America or Europe is and these other people, fundamentalists, tell them to sacrifice themselves. Key question: How many suicide bombers can one fundamentalist recruit? As many as he wants.
Turn the question around a little, and ask yourself how many innocent lives were lost because of one christian fundamentalist who happened to be in a powerful position? I think you will find that the most logical outcome here is to stop fighting all together.
People always start talking about how "good christians" don't blow each other up, however I think it is wrong to compare it that way.
I recently had a visitor stay at my place for about two weeks. This person happened to be an American soldier on leave from Afghanistan and they had some very interesting points while discussing this particular topic. The first thing is that most people don't realize that the ones blowing them selves up aren't the ones we're fighting.
Imagine a goat shepherd who doesn't even know that the earth is round. Some guy comes along and tells him that evil Americans are here to kill their children and rape their wives unless they step up to the plate. Yada yada yada 70 virgins and all of that later, and what have they got to loose? The main difference is that they can't even spell, probably don't even know where Africa, America or Europe is and these other people, fundamentalists, tell them to sacrifice themselves. Key question: How many suicide bombers can one fundamentalist recruit? As many as he wants.
Turn the question around a little, and ask yourself how many innocent lives were lost because of one christian fundamentalist who happened to be in a powerful position? I think you will find that the most logical outcome here is to stop fighting all together.
Right, in a perfect moronic world like the one you inhabit that would happen. In Tiller's world, he bribed the governor and made millions off of killing babies while she gave him protection. Abortion has always been about money - that's why Planned Parenthood recently changed their business model to increase abortions.
But wait, it's actually about a noble right to 'choose'. Right..
You really give athiest a bad name. Muslims and Christians are apples and oranges. Extremist islam is preached in santioned mosque across the world. Martyrdom is preached as well as praised on thier TV networks etc. The violence and extremism is common in this religeon all throughout the world.
When is the last time you attended a Babtist church and the preacher was preaching about killing the non belivers? When is the last time you turned the TV on and watched a documentary praising the latest Methodist suicide bomber?
All violence commited by a self proclaimed "Christian" is ALWAYS denounced by the Christian churches. Acts of violence commited by the Muslims are often celebrated by millions of Muslims.
Give up on this argument. Your going no where with it.
All this means is the Muslims haven't yet got over the Islamic equivalent of the "Crusades".
Christians for the most part have adapted to modern society, they know they can't get anywhere killing people anymore. They realized it a thousand years ago.
The Christians had their religiously sanctioned military campaigns already. They had them a thousand years ago.
Muslims just happen to be having their religiously sanctioned military campaigns right now in current history.
Muslims will eventually evolve past this (as Christians did) and they too will realize they can't get anywhere killing people.
Once Muslims have adapted you will clearly be able to see that this is an apple to apple comparison.
I just happen to be able to see the apple to apple comparison now instead of later.
Kill the white man!!! God Damn America!!! Ladies and Gentlemen ... Jeremiah Wright
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hPR5jnjtLo"]YouTube - GOD DAMN AMERICA Rev Jeremiah Wright, Farrakhan & Obama[/ame]
No, you're just a moron that keeps mindless repeating his brainwashed anti-religion garbage. The texts of Christianity do not support forced conversion; those of Islam do. Any dumbfuck that does whatever in the name of whatever becomes ultimately meaningless in the light of that one fact. Move on.
You're being extremely prejudiced of the Islamic faith.
You're plain wrong. Flat out.
Islamic text explicity states, "Let there be no compulsion in religion". Qur'an 2:256
Define:compulsion - use force to cause something
They cannot force (compel) conversion.
Islamic scripture and law forbids forced conversion.
One of he last notable forced conversions to happen in Islam happened in the fucking 12th century. Sunnis were forced to convert to Shi'ism.
As you, don't know, Sunnis are the largest current denomination of Muslims. They represent 87 - 90% of the Muslim population according to research done by the Pew Research Center (a non-partisan think tank) in Oct. 2009.
As you also, don't know, Sunnis do not believe in the sixth pillar.
What is the sixth pillar? It's fucking jihad.
Let me make this clear to you...... 87-90% of the Muslim population does not believe in jihad.
They me make this super clear... 87-90% of the Muslim faith does not believe in "the holy war waged by Muslims against the infidels". The whole thing we over here in America call "The War on Terror".
So again, you can't point to Islam and say it's a violent religion.
The overall vast majority of Muslims are PEACEFUL people. The overall vast majority of Christians are PEACEFUL people.
Both sides have their extremism. Christian terror exists too.
You can't stand on your pedestal any longer and point to Muslims as a violent group and inferior.
Please... step down from the pedestal.
One last thing..... (and hopefully I can rid myself of all future debates about this stuff, at least it'll be off my chest)
This is unrelated to OP or anything else in this thread.
But since the OP is retarded and I don't want to start a new thread I'll post this here.
I just got done watching this and I felt like these guys were like me arguing with people on here. It so clearly illustrates the frustration.
Keep in mind that the title was inaccurately titled (by the youtube user and not the video creator) and it would be more accurately called religion has no morality instead of Christianity has no morality. It just happens that the caller is Christian (I think you find this out before the clip begins). Trust me, these guys aren't just arguing against Christianity. They are arguing against all religion so keep that in mind.
The caller is a perfect example of people I've been arguing with lately.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSW_L-6vNZY"]YouTube - Christianity has no morality - The Atheist Experience #630[/ame]
This video is solely for the atheists. Theists will get pissed.
Please, don't respond saying this is bullshit and that Christianity or religion on a whole are in fact moral. That is fine that is what you think. You aren't going to change my opinion. Please don't respond, neg rep, or call me a bigot because you are only proving to me that you are the bigot. The point of this post isn't to prove religion has no morals anyway. Religion can be a great guide and can in fact lead to peace, I agree.
If you have a problem just PM me. It's much easier to reach a conclusion that way.
[I doubt anyone just read that.]
This is unrelated to OP or anything else in this thread.
But since the OP is retarded and I don't want to start a new thread I'll post this here.
I just got done watching this and I felt like these guys were like me arguing with people on here. It so clearly illustrates the frustration.
Keep in mind that the title was inaccurately titled (by the youtube user and not the video creator) and it would be more accurately called religion has no morality instead of Christianity has no morality. It just happens that the caller is Christian (I think you find this out before the clip begins). Trust me, these guys aren't just arguing against Christianity. They are arguing against all religion so keep that in mind.
The caller is a perfect example of people I've been arguing with lately.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSW_L-6vNZY"]YouTube - Christianity has no morality - The Atheist Experience #630[/ame]
This video is solely for the atheists. Theists will get pissed.
Please, don't respond saying this is bullshit and that Christianity or religion on a whole are in fact moral. That is fine that is what you think. You aren't going to change my opinion. Please don't respond, neg rep, or call me a bigot because you are only proving to me that you are the bigot. The point of this post isn't to prove religion has no morals anyway. Religion can be a great guide and can in fact lead to peace, I agree.
If you have a problem just PM me. It's much easier to reach a conclusion that way.
[I doubt anyone just read that.]
This is not entirely true.
During Islamic rule of the Indian sub-continent
The Muslim conquest of the Indian subcontinent led to widespread carnage because Muslims regarded the Hindus as infidels and therefore slaughtered and converted millions of Hindus. Will Durant argued in his 1935 book "The Story of Civilization: Our Oriental Heritage" (page 459):
“The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period."
Persecution of Hindus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thank you for the clarification.
Allow me to rephrase that statement.
One of the last notable forced conversions that happened in Islam occurred in the 18th century.
I offer my greatest apologies to the Hindus.
+rep dude!
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Edit: I'll give you rep later, I've given out too much.