This is scary

Throughout thousands of years of history every religion has had instances of extremism. But what's going on now, presently, in the year 2009 in the Middle East, is barbaric and an embarrassment to humanity, and it's totally baffling why there is no global outcry by members of that religion against it.

I'm going to play some Modern Warfare 2 now. I sure hope it's a Middle East mission!!

Yes, throughout thousands of years up until now... It hasn't changed. The middle east is by far the worst. The west isn't immune either...

BTW, the majority of Muslims condemn the violence.
 


Hello friends,

I no think should judge man by religion only. Should judge man by things do.

There people good and people bad in all religion.

Good luck bros
 
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The only thing I meant by this is that all religions have their extremists, there is no sense in pointing at Islam and saying it is the only religion with crazies.

The vast majority of Islamic people aren't terrorists. I'm guessing at least 90% of Islamic people probably condemn the violence.
America is not free of its own religious domestic terrorists. Christian or Muslim.

Christians in America think their own theology is immune from extremists while pointing at the entirety of Islam and saying it's a violent theology.

People are only getting so upset because they're Christians themselves. They don't want to believe that it's possible their theology can somehow create a terrorist. But it can, look at Scott Roeder.

Considering that there are over a billion Muslims on Earth, I sure hope it's higher than 90%!
 
That's quite a stretch you made there. It was ALL done in the name of Christ, that's the point. And there are droves of Muslims that will tell you the same about extremists and terrorists.

Which is when we go straight to the source for clarification - i.e. the two holy texts themselves.

And I would make the case that there are Koranic verses that encourage forced conversion, whereas Christianity does not allow that.

And the Islam-defenders then tell me all the verses I'm citing are misinterpretations.

And since nobody here actually reads Arabic, we reach a standstill.

And yet even if I ceded that point, at this very moment there are hundreds, if not thousands, of preachers in mosques right now, telling their followers that the Koran allows and commands them to kill unbelievers.

Can you say the same about Christian preachers?
 
Which is when we go straight to the source for clarification - i.e. the two holy texts themselves.

And I would make the case that there are Koranic verses that encourage forced conversion, whereas Christianity does not allow that.

And the Islam-defenders then tell me all the verses I'm citing are misinterpretations.

And since nobody here actually reads Arabic, we reach a standstill.

And yet even if I ceded that point, at this very moment there are hundreds, if not thousands, of preachers in mosques right now, telling their followers that the Koran allows and commands them to kill unbelievers.

Can you say the same about Christian preachers?

Fine. Your Christian theology is flawless.
 
Christians in America think their own theology is immune from extremists while pointing at the entirety of Islam and saying it's a violent theology.

People are only getting so upset because they're Christians themselves. They don't want to believe that it's possible their theology can somehow create a terrorist. But it can, look at Scott Roeder.

Ho-ly-shit you are stupid.

All you care about is attacking Christians and spouting false stereotypes, while completely rejecting the actual point of this discussion.

How in the fuck is this about Christians getting upset?

Since you seemed to slip over my question before, I'll ask it again: Would you rather live in our Christian dominated America, or perhaps enjoy a lifestyle of that in a Muslim dominated Middle East? You seem to be all about calling out instances of Christian extremism and trying to pathetically equalize it with that of Muslim extremism.
 
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Fuck! This is terrifying.
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Not only is he acknowledging his inherited personal history (which he cannot change) and showing respect for and knowledge of the second largest religion in the world, but he is speaking in a way which might actually show the Muslim world that has uninhibited access to media that the shit they read in their news papers, text books, and see on al-Jazeera isn't exactly true.
Despite the fact that I don't really believe that most people who are Christians adhere to the true principles of the religion, and I don't really care if they do, Obama has chosen to be a Christian. It's most likely that he is "Christian" for political reasons but I am not aware of any evidence which could actually confirm or refute this. What I do care about is having a president who is smart enough to know that ignorance is not an strength and that showing the Muslim world that he actually has knowledge of their religion and respect for it most of it's fundamental principles is something which can only help win over the minds of the next generation.

*That said, I still think Obama isn't that great a president but I didn't expect much. He's a fucking politician that promised the moon. Anyone who thought that he could deliver on everything he promised needs to check out this awesome deal i found on some berriez that make you skinny, toned, and tan without working out.
 
This.

Everybody here is so focused on their own atheism and accepting that all religion is equally bad, you can't see the shit that's going on right in front of your own fucking face.

The Muslim who shot everybody up at Ft. Hood screamed "Allahu Akbar!" right before he went on his spree. And the audacity of people to believe it had nothing to do with Islam.

It's hilarious how self-righteous people here are.

Atheists will be some of the first to acknowledge that Ft. Hood was Islamic terrorism.

Who's audacity are you talking about here? We actually had a decent consensus in the Ft. Hood thread that it was Islamic terrorism. It's more like the audacity of the mainstream media, they're the ones that woudln't admit to it.


You are quite possibly the most ignorant person I've seen here.

I seriously believe people would place you higher on the ignorance scale than myself.

Would you rather live in the Christian dominated America you live in today, or the Middle East? Last time I checked we didn't have suicide bombers killing in the name of God EVERY DAY.

You idiots can't pull a few cases and use it as an argument against something that happens every day with Islam.

I rather live in a religious free world. Free of Islamic and Christian terrorism. (You're forced to live in one of those worlds)

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But we can pull those few cases and claim that Christianity isn't all high and mighty like you want to believe it is.

The frequency of the events is irrelevant. The point is religion is no good. No religion. No religious extremism.

However, practically and in reality, of course, the frequency of terrorism events is relevant. By far, the most terrorism today is committed by Muslims. But, don't forget about the Christian terrorists too. Christians and Muslims are no better or worse than each other. Christianity does not belong on a fucking pedestal. Get over it.

And I'm not the only "dreamer".

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You seem to be all about calling out instances of Christian extremism and trying to pathetically equalize it with that of Muslim extremism.

They are equal.... people die.

Your pathetic, you are so EXTRAORDINARILY blind.

I'm not attacking Christianity only (however thats the only time you get upset) I'm attacking RELIGION. I know you've heard it a million times.... but it still hasn't gotten through your thick brick like skull.

I don't think they ever had a muslim friend.

I HIGHLY doubt it, absolutely none of these assholes sees this as discriminatory.

Good point.
 
I don't feel like going back to page 1 to find the quote, but whoever said that Christians don't believe in forced conversions whereas Muslims do should read the Old Testament. It's full of forced conversions, rape, pillage and more. I'm not saying that present day Christians feel that way as a whole, but the religion is founded on forced conversions.

I'd still much rather be an atheist here in America than an anything in a Muslim country though.