Three Stages of Jhiad

[faceblogger]

robjonez - lol. You just need to grow up.

 

[amateursurgeon]

You should really learn your history. Muslims never rule India. Maybe you're talking about Pakistan.

Mughal Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The (Islamic) Mughal Empire during the reign of Aurangzeb c. 1700

What's that green area then, bro? Mongolia?

 

[amateursurgeon]

Let's not play with words, shall we?

I was born in Indonesia, the country with the largest population of Muslims in the world. I lived there for 18+ years.

We're not playing with words. We're highlighting the fact that certain posters are talking ignorant nonsense based on very little actual knowledge.

 

[amateursurgeon]

Ah, THAT bodhisattva... I thought the religious one that I'd heard about in temples (old school Buddhism, dealing with past lives) was what you were talking about. My bad.


You're honestly not able to see the difference there?

Yes, of course there is a difference. The Buddha himself said "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." Buddhism isn't really comparable to Abrahamic religions, although it has problems of its own.

In Islam today, ALL muslims work towards ridding all other religions or are not considered "good muslims." The instructions that say to do violent things are still IN USE.

According to a lot of sects, you're not a good Christian unless you spread the Good News (ie convert infidels to Christianity)

In Christianity and Judaism, 99% of these people never even hear the "ancient, vulgar" passages that you have just quoted. They are NOT in use anymore, because to keep them in use would require that society still be a violent, slave-loving, wife-beating, backwards society that no one could defend anymore as righteous.

Therefore, the actual instructions that muslims follow are evil & violent, while the instructions that christians and jews follow are merely designed to enslave their minds peacefully.

Most of the Muslims I know drink, eat non-halal meat and have sex outside of marriage. You're right, the extremists would probably brand them infidels and behead them with the rest of us.

However, surely you must be able to see that:

1. All Muslims are extremists
2. Any Muslim who isn't an extremist isn't really a good Muslim.
3. However, because all Muslims are extremists (see point 1), even the non-extremists are extremists.

Is a ridiculous claim.

I'd rather be surrounded by sheep than potential murderers, thanks.

I'm tempted to say something about gun laws here, but let's stick to one argument, shall we?

There may be something to this theory; it would certainly be a good tool for TPTB to use against the american public to help control them, like it did on 9/11.

However, since you included me in that statement, I'll remind you that I am convinced that 9/11 was committed by the white house, I refuse to listen to the MSM for more than a few seconds at a time, and I've come to my conclusions about islam based upon my own investigations alone.

Ok, if you say so.

It seems obvious to me that you have a problem sensing threat, just like pretty much all of Europe did. You are giving the tree jumpers way too much credit, which is exactly what they want, so they can turn your town into a 100% Muslim town.

You sound like the BNP over here. I see plenty of threat... however I see it in different place to you.

Imagine moving a bunch of Christians to the city of Mecca and violently protesting how they are treated. What would be the result?

Probably the same as a bunch of Muslims protesting about how they're treated in Jerusalem, on land that used to be theirs.

Yet they move to christian territories and do the same thing, driving Christians out, multiplying like bunny rabbits... Mathematically it is all but impossible for non-muslims to survive in Europe in the next century without some kind of mass bloodbath happening soon. This threat is clearly a large one.

Islam in Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Depends which Think tank you believe. Also, high birth rate is a function of poverty and low education levels. Most Muslims in Europe are currently in lower socio-economic groups (because a lot of them are immigrants from rural areas in places like Bangladesh).

Typically, women would have an arranged marriage at 16-18, then keep having kids until they couldn't any more. As their wealth increases, they are falling into Western patterns - delaying marriage / kids until their 30s, using contraceptions etc.

There IS a very strong movement against women's rights in Islam, and that is something which is worth investigating. Which is one of the reasons I'm trying to encourage you to move on from a simple "they are all bad, ummkay" viewpoint, because it doesn't really help you.

Frankly I'm glad for the sake of all americans that we would start associating them like the red threat of communism... It'll be the one tool we have to keep them from doing the same here.

(Aside: Thailand, of course, is already dealing with some of this crap coming up from Indonesia but Thais are smart enough to see it as a threat already and actively combat it down at the southern border.)

I don't really have much to say about that, because I never really understood the anti-communist fervour. I mistrust all goverments and religions equally.

 

[faceblogger]

Muslims ruled India (Mughals). However, they did not have control over the entire India throughout that period. Mughal kings distroyed a lot of Hindu temples, tried to convert Hindus to Muslims by violence and were able to convert 10% of the Indians to Islam.

This is one of the Hindu king who was tortured and then beheaded by Muslims on his denial to convert to Islam.
Sambhaji - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sambhaji was beheaded and his body was cut into pieces on his denial to bow down to Aurangzeb and convert to Islam.

 

[amateursurgeon]

Muslims ruled India (Mughals). However, they did not have control over the entire India throughout that period. Mughal kings distroyed a lot of Hindu temples tried to convert Hindus to Muslims by violence and they were able to converted 10% of the Indians to Muslims.

This is one of the Hindu king who was tortured and then beheaded by Muslims on his denial to convert to Islam.
Sambhaji - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yep - I certainly wouldn't have said the Mughals were peaceful.

There are similarities with the Conquistadores though. Monotheistic religion as a tool for violent oppression of a conquered peoples, and imposition of an autocratic authority (it's right because hey, it's the way it is in heaven too, folks!)