You like Muslims? Guess what happens when the cult's population grows?

[popeye]

Look in it, motherfucker

you athiest fucks are just plain unbelievable! You bash and bash on Christians without ANY regard. The moment someone (BTW you and the rest of the idiots in this thread were trolled the fuck up) says something about muslims....all of a sudden you are up in arms. Get a new idealology, you fuckin wana be.

 

[turbolapp]

You moron, we just saw the quintessential liberal feminist compare posting naked girls to raping girls. That's about the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

And it all stems from that garbage you posted above: in your mind, the poor widdle Muslims are under attack and need to be defended at all costs - even if it means making ridiculous arguments like Turbo just made.

I assuming the feminist here is me, So let me skip forward then: Where was I talking about naked pictures, Hellblazer? AND ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION...because this is about the time usually conveniently skip out of the arguments (you know, when you actually have to back yourself up.)

 

[sumitdhawan09]

Hello friends,

I no think should hate all muslim. Should only hate those dirty terrorist muslim.

Even though there lot dirty terrorist muslim there still good muslim to.

Good luck bros

 

[johnGalt]

I'm still not understanding where this is true for me. I dislike those people because they're not like me. I have no poor upbringing, no close family that way, and no experience being truly poor. I just see the way those people are, and know that I could and would never be that way. I don't dislike them because of what's in me, I dislike them because of the way they live.

Do all conservatives hate liberals because deep down, they're liberal themselves? No, they're conservative. They hate liberals because they believe their views to be completely wrong.

Just because you can use that quote to describe your own personal problems with religion doesn't mean it's anywhere near universal like you're using it.

You have no idea where you would be if you had a different upbringing - there's no guarantee you wouldn't be impoverished or in a shitty situation because "that's not the way you are." To use an extreme example, imagine a Jewish person that got killed in the Holocaust. If that same person (same DNA) was born in Germany instead, they probably would have been a Nazi like most of the others too - it's a nature vs. nurture thing. It's a useful way to think about many things - for example, I'm a weak Atheist (meaning I don't believe in God but I am open to the idea of God if given proof), and I have to come to terms with the fact that if I was born into a more religious family or country then I could possibly be religious too - knowing this helps you sympathize with people you don't agree with and helps you think more logically, rather than just getting angry. Don't get me wrong though, everyone still needs to be held accountable for their actions and can't blame everything on 'nurture.'

You moron, we just saw the quintessential liberal feminist compare posting naked girls to raping girls. That's about the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

And it all stems from that garbage you posted above: in your mind, the poor widdle Muslims are under attack and need to be defended at all costs - even if it means making ridiculous arguments like Turbo just made.

She is far from a quintessential liberal feminist - you and popeye are both belligerent fuckfaces.

 

[hellblazer]

I assuming the feminist here is me, So let me skip forward then: Where was I talking about naked pictures, Hellblazer? AND ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION...because this is about the time usually conveniently skip out of the arguments (you know, when you actually have to back yourself up.)

Oh nooes, not the righteous indignation!

This forum has a very low regard of women in general.

When you factor that in with the fact that most religious people are fairly moderate you would see that you are not much different than your Muslim counterparts.

The shaky premise of moral equivalence(WFers=Muslim rapists) is built here, upon the fragile foundation that this forum has a 'low regard' of women. The lesson is clear:

WE ARE ALL RAPISTS NOW. Rapists of the world, unite!

I'm trying to think of the most egregious actions here. Filthy comments? Posting naked girls? Toeing the pedo line? What exactly is going on here that is comparable to raping girls?

 

[Skippy McGee]

^^^

There we go! Order restored.

 

[medicalhumor]

you athiest fucks are just plain unbelievable! You bash and bash on Christians without ANY regard. The moment someone (BTW you and the rest of the idiots in this thread were trolled the fuck up) says something about muslims....all of a sudden you are up in arms. Get a new idealology, you fuckin wana be.

first of all I'm not an athiest, but thanks for making assumptions. Second, I didn't bash Christians, but thanks for the misdirection. And yes, believe it or not, some of us morons (thanks hellblazer for the kind words) do realize the OP is a troll, however, we are responding mostly to the usual rhetoric that follows.

 

[turbolapp]

This forum has a very low regard of women in general.

Perhaps you should just ask next time instead of making...oh who the fuck am I kidding right?

I stick by what I said. I don't have to explain my self about my comment unless you're really as stupid as you are pretending to be.

 

[SUP3RNOVA]

knowing this helps you sympathize with people you don't agree with and helps you think more logically, rather than just getting angry.

I only used the word 'hate' because it's what Turbo started the conversation with. Do I really hate these people? Probably not that harsh. But do I have a reason to be angry? Hell yeah, you do too. Someone stealing your money is a perfectly sound reason for being angry.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]

She's just a good poster child, I know it's been posted many times before.

 

[johnysc430]

If you're defending the way muslim countries treat women you're going to lose that argument every time.

The stuff that's socially acceptable in muslim countries is appalling.

 

[bb_wolfe]

This forum has a very low regard of women in general.

Listen missy, if we want your opinion, we'll give it to you!


(I'll in witness protection from this point on if anyone needs me!)

 

[DTAlexONE]

Are you a "wana be athiest" because:

1) its all the rage to bash on Christians, just like all the rest of the Interweb kids?
2) you refuse to bash ALL religeons because your a pussy and know that bashing muslims might get your head seperated from your pathetic body?

which one wana be?

1. No atheism here. Born and raised Christian but I no longer subscribe to a religion. I believe in a higher being though, call him God if you like.

2. Unlike your ignorant self, I don't feel the need to bash religions or beliefs simply on the basis of respect. Something that you clearly seem to be lacking in.

 

[Andrew Scherer]

The problem is most of our views of Muslims are being shaped by the small amount of extremists within the religion.

It would be much the same of Christianity if the only news we saw was the latest on the KKK or who was the last crazy-eyed God nut to run around with a shotgun in a Jewish church.

Keep in mind Islam is almost 2 billion - they aren't all raping terrorists.

Better to explain to my sister that when she goes to the beach and our Muslim brothers call her a whore for wearing a bikini and kick sand in her face she better not be racist or worst still Islamophobic, after all they're the REAL victims here.

LOL you are totally ridiculous.

90% of women from liberal countries like American and Sweden ARE WHORES.

And that quote you had from that young Muslim up top - Dude is 100% right. And Muslims aren't the only who think this way either - most of latin America has the same attitude towards American girls.

 

[SUP3RNOVA]

The problem is most of our views of Muslims are being shaped by the small amount of extremists within the religion.

That's true at face value, but there's more to it than just that. It's the way Islam is being taught in mosques all across the Middle East, it's the way their children are growing up, it's the hundreds of suicide bombings that don't seem to stop, it's the reason we got into a war.

It would be much the same of Christianity if the only news we saw was the latest on the KKK or who was the last crazy-eyed God nut to run around with a shotgun in a Jewish church.

It wouldn't though. If it was the same, we'd see it on television somewhere in the world just as much as we do about Middle East terrorism. But we don't.

 

[Andrew Scherer]

That's true at face value, but there's more to it than just that. It's the way Islam is being taught in mosques all across the Middle East, it's the way their children are growing up, it's the hundreds of suicide bombings that don't seem to stop, it's the reason we got into a war.

You're making the assumtion that radical violence is an essential part of the Islamic faith.

I can easily argue quite the contrary.

With the way we're trampling over the middle east like an oil guzzling elephant you'd think we'd be fighting a hard army of millions of angry Muslims, right?

No?

Where are they?

Let's make a simple comparison. How many deaths of American soldiers have there been in Iraq (around 4,000) compared to the deaths of American soldiers in Vietnam (58000)?

So when you make the claim that the second largest religion in the world preaches violence in the Mosques and to the kids, I'm going to need you to show me where the hundreds of millions of violent Muslims are. Fair?

I don't blame your opinions on Islam, I can easily understand them. You're afraid and the media has you by the balls. It's easy for me to check myself because I haven't been in America for almost 4 years now.

No matter what religion you're coming from, the vast majority of people are peaceful.

I wouldn't let a few bad apples and a loud media spoil your ability to reason in a rational way.

P.S. Just in case anyone is wondering the reason why we don't see millions of angry Muslims is because 99% of Islamics are moderate.

 

[hellblazer]

I don't have to explain my self about my comment unless you're really as stupid as you are pretending to be.

Not only are we Muslim rapists, we're stupid Muslim rapists! Oh, the legendary debating skills never stop!

the reason why we don't see millions of angry Muslims is because 99% of Islamics are moderate.

Besides the fact that I think it's bizarre you said 90% of Western women are whores, you pulled this number out of what part of your ass?

 

[SUP3RNOVA]

You're making the assumtion that radical violence is an essential part of the Islamic faith.

No I'm not. I'm making the assertion that there is more violence in modern Islam than there is in modern Christianity. This is an entire argument that's already been done before.

Where are they?

All over the news. Show me the mass media outside of America on Christian terrorism.

So when you make the claim that the second largest religion in the world preaches violence in the Mosques and to the kids, I'm going to need you to show me where the hundreds of millions of violent Muslims are. Fair?

No, not fair. I didn't say every mosque. I didn't say the majority of Muslims. I contested your point about equally comparing the threat of Christianity and Islam.

You're afraid and the media has you by the balls. It's easy for me to check myself because I haven't been in America for almost 4 years now.

Most of them aren't in my country, why would I be afraid? That's one of the things we're fighting for. Violence in Christianity is something to fight for too, it just doesn't happen because it's not a problem like Islam is. This is common sense comeon now.

No matter what religion you're coming from, the vast majority of people are peaceful.

Never said they weren't. But the fact that it DOES exist and influences THOUSANDS of people across the Middle East. And it's DIRECTLY related to the religion. It doesn't matter what small percentage it is, what matters is the violent impact it's having.

I wouldn't let a few bad apples and a loud media spoil your ability to reason in a rational way.

A few bad apples? Stop speaking comparatively, NUMBERS matter, not PERCENTAGES.

 

[UnripeArbiter]

OP, hellblazer, popeye (and everyone else that looks at the exceptions to label the whole)....

I'm making the assertion that there is more violence in modern Islam than there is in modern Christianity. This is an entire argument that's already been done before.

Great. That's true.

I see your still the prejudiced one... ::another facepalm::

 

[exclusivewrites]

You're making the assumtion that radical violence is an essential part of the Islamic faith.

I can easily argue quite the contrary.

With the way we're trampling over the middle east like an oil guzzling elephant you'd think we'd be fighting a hard army of millions of angry Muslims, right?

No?

Where are they?

Let's make a simple comparison. How many deaths of American soldiers have there been in Iraq (around 4,000) compared to the deaths of American soldiers in Vietnam (58000)?

So when you make the claim that the second largest religion in the world preaches violence in the Mosques and to the kids, I'm going to need you to show me where the hundreds of millions of violent Muslims are. Fair?

I don't blame your opinions on Islam, I can easily understand them. You're afraid and the media has you by the balls. It's easy for me to check myself because I haven't been in America for almost 4 years now.

No matter what religion you're coming from, the vast majority of people are peaceful.

I wouldn't let a few bad apples and a loud media spoil your ability to reason in a rational way.

P.S. Just in case anyone is wondering the reason why we don't see millions of angry Muslims is because 99% of Islamics are moderate

This was rambling nonsense. How have we "trampled over the Middle East"? We've paid hundreds of billions of dollars for our oil.. and even allowed them to operate a cartel resulting in prices higher than what the market would ordinarily dictate. We've given tens of billions in foreign aid to Egypt, Jordan and many other countries in the region. If this is being "trampled", then i'll take some trampling myself.

As to your assertion that islam is no more prone to cause conflict than any other religion.. i beg to differ. You have islamic jihad against:

India/Kashmir
Against America
Versus China
From inside and outside Europe
Insurgency in Philippines
Versus Israel
In Afghanistan and Iraq
Against blacks in Sudan and Nigeria
Against its own people in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Iran

Of course you can not extrapolote the the individual, and the vast majority of muslims are peaceful good people. However, there is a mentality which dictates no criticism be made of the "bad apples" as you call them. Every other religion, at least in current times, is quick to disavow its nutjobs. With Turkey as the salient exception to the general rule, can you name one instance of an Islamic country getting along with a non-Muslim neighbor? Let alone even with fellow Muslim neighbors...

 

[Andrew Scherer]

This is an entire argument that's already been done before.

You're totally right and as much as I would like to debate with you guys I have better things to do. Forgive me