Hellblazer

Conflict of Interest

Let's calm the "drama and tears" and just focus on the core issue here. Shall we?

The issue is the conflict of interest. Whose side is Nicky on? Wickedfire members want their private data, including IPs, protected. LPLockdown customers are paying Nicky $50/month to collect this data to be used on their behalf for cloaking. They would surely want it to come from Wickedfire too, as this is perhaps the most relevant group of people to cloak against.

Nicky has to decide and declare clearly whose side he is on. Because that's what is going to determine whether he will or will not scrape IPs from mod control panel. Here are the options:

1) Step down as a mod and keep selling whatever he wants

2) Announce on his blog that LPLockdown specifically does not and will not include Wickedfire IPs, because for him his Wickedfire mod role comes first before his paying customers

3) Keep ignoring the conflict of interest and acting like a complete douchebag

So far he has been going with Option #3. Sure he has a product to sell, but what is troubling is that Mods seem to be supportive of this douchebaggery. Admins made it clear that IP collection is not OK by turning off pixels in signatures, but have not stepped in to forcefully resolve the conflict of interest. I hope everyone should realize by now that the issue will not just go away, given how this thread got inflamed after everyone thought LPLockdown drama was over.

This is not just "shades of gray that Wickedfire thrives on". This is a real issue of trust because there is conflict of interest.
 


I'm sure as hell not going to do this, but somebody should just make a simple poll.

Look at just the poll results, not all the stupid pictures/comments/drama/jackassery that will follow it.
 
I thought it was part of the mods responsibility to deal with issues like this. Not to hide under the table and hope it goes away!

Is any of the mods going to put this to bed once and for all?!
 
I guess at this point I'm not sure what to say. You bitch and bitch and bitch, then attack attack attack, and never offer anything that resembles a solution.

Someone (anyone) just needs to lay down clearly if embedding pixels is ok or not and I suspect the issue will go away. They could say, it was before but now it is not, so Nicky is safe, but none of you fuckers can do it from now on.

It's really as simple as that.




Then you have the balls to say that you just want things happy and normal, yet you're the fuckstock who is causing the rumpus.

So I suppose I'll back off and say your e-dick is bigger than mine and you're 1337 and we're not, etc.
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I thought it was part of the mods responsibility to deal with issues like this. Not to hide under the table and hope it goes away!

Is any of the mods going to put this to bed once and for all?!

They kind of did...

barman came in to say basically nothing.

Eli came in and said everybody is against hellblazer, when actually the opposite is the case.

turbo came in and doesn't get what the issue is since WF thrives on being shady.
 
Care to explain where I've been wrong in any of my posts?
Because you should just let it go. Because you have nothing to gain by piling on. The momentum has swung against you, and you're undermining anything you might have achieved.

EDIT : I know how hellblazer feels now.
I lol'd.

Hellblazer is ok. He's wound tight, but at least he doesn't hold back on what he thinks.

Back to work...
 
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Because you should just let it go. Because you have nothing to gain by piling on. The momentum has swung against you, and you're undermining anything you might have achieved.

There's a clear misunderstanding here. I was never trying to gain anything in the first place. Did owning LPLockdown make my day better? Yeah, but that wasn't the purpose. The purpose was to call out blatant bullshit and really question if Nicky is a guy you can trust (since his brand is built on calling out bad products).

I really haven't undermined a single thing I've set out to achieve. Even though there's a small riot against me now has nothing to do with LPLockdown (and trust in Nicky). Most people in all of the threads agreed with me. I don't care that they're not backing my individual posts (the admin has already done that), they're backing yours and everybody else who has come into these threads with a bit of reason.

Sure I was a huge jackass about it (nobody seemed to ever get upset that Nicky was a jackass when he called people out), but unintelligent? Probably not.
 
They kind of did...

barman came in to say basically nothing.

Eli came in and said everybody is against hellblazer, when actually the opposite is the case.

turbo came in and doesn't get what the issue is since WF thrives on being shady.

So they kind of didn't then!

This is about more than ip harvesting. People have lost faith in wickedfire and the mods are doing nothing about it! If I was Jon I'd be looking for new mods!
 
All the fuck I wanted was for someone that runs or helps run this forum to state "YES...we do all we can to protect your personal information" from hacks, shady mods and the like. Then someone sends me this Word of Advice | ppc.bz

So I really don't know what to think now.

1) Forum mods warning of shady shit with PM's
2) Forum mods harvesting IPs to use for some guru script
3) Forum mods playing dumbass and insulting members that are really concerned

FUCK! did Harro take over wickedfire or something?!?!?
 
BTW I am not really sure how the fuck I can read anyone's PMs... As far as I know, even admins can't read your PMs without making special modifications to the code.

PS: I am out of this drama.
 
They kind of did...

barman came in to say basically nothing.

Eli came in and said everybody is against hellblazer, when actually the opposite is the case.

turbo came in and doesn't get what the issue is since WF thrives on being shady.

cliffnote pics plz.