Climate change? do you believe it?

[brandonbaker]

I don't know if we're destroying the earth, but I do know that the human survival instinct (meant to protect its genes, not its environment) would be much too strong to do anything about it on a mass scale.

For every Greenpeace treehugger in San Francisco and New York, there are thousands more who couldn't give a damn.

 

[scottspfd82]

Enjoy:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

Also.. from his wikipedia entry



So if we follow the gravy train.. someone doing PR for industry might very well have an incentive to deny man's role in global warming.

::emp::

Wait a second... Are you implying that people who push certain ideals may do so with the incentive of secretly fulfilling their own personal agendas? Or that PR/media could be used to deceive people?

Heresy I say.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

we are already losing all types of frog species and many others. It's all natural baby.

So it's not natural for species to die out?

It feels like we're talking about two different things. On the one hand you have people that say the climate always changes (it does), we've always had natural disasters (we have), and animal/plant species naturally die off (they do).

On the other hand, you have people that point to every cold spell, warm spell, hurricane, tornado, dead frog species, too much rain, not enough rain, ocean currents too warm, ocean currents too cold, typhoons, tsunami's and every other thing that has always happened from the beginning of time and attribute it 100% to humans.

Until people stop putting all of the blame on humans for what has naturally occurred in nature since before people even existed, it's going to be hard to get everyone to take it seriously.

We do affect our environment, I don't think anybody would disagree with that. It's probably a good idea to try and minimize any potentially negative impact that we have in a reasonable manner. But blaming normal weather events and natural selection on car emissions is fucking stupid and if you're going to say fucking stupid things you can't ever expect to be taken seriously. Sorry.

 

[jhoffy22]

Past decade?

Take us back to the time before regular natural disasters - what year was that again? I understand that the Internet "shrinks" the world and news travels faster now and to a bigger audience, but you do realize the climate has always been changing right?

This reminds me of how every time there is a mass shooting people get all hysterical and freak out about how "this type of thing didn't use to happen so often", until you show them the numbers and point out that shootings have decreased almost every year for the last 20 years straight and that violent crime is at the lowest it's been in almost 40 years.

Fucking Internet.

Just a testament to the power of the media. The media can make people believe anything they want to over a 2-3 year period of time.

 

[mikeshinobi]

Will anyone address this? I'd like to hear from the "humans have had 0 impact on anything" group in particular. Unless these stats were produced by the illerminaty to mind control me, I'd say it's pretty clear we're having a massive impact on things.

 

[infoslob]

HOW SOON WE FORGET THE SAGA OF THE ECO-TOURIST FAGGOTS

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

I'd like to hear from the "humans have had 0 impact on anything" group in particular.

Could you kindly point out any members of that group? I can't say I've spent a lot of time reading various message boards and comment sections on the subject, but I can't remember seeing anyone, at anytime, anywhere ever making that statement. Are you sure that's an actual position that people take?

 

[droplister]

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[teatree]

Climate change is real and if you dont believe it, frankly you're a moron.
How much us humans are actually contributing to it is the real question. In my opinion we contribute very little on the scheme of things, if the figures I believe to be correct are actually correct.
Major climate occurances have always happened in cycles and always will. Theres nothng anyone can do to stop it. It would be like trying to stop the wind, ridiculous and a complete waste of time.

It doesn't really matter whether we caused it or not - it's a threat to our species, so we ought to try to do something to manage it.

Homo Sapiens have only been around for 190,000 years and in all that time the polar regions have been ice capped.

Lets just say for argument the earth is undergoing one of it's periodic climate shifts. Would we survive? That is the question.

You get retards saying things like "Warming doesn't matter, it was really hot during the dinosaur age".

Only we're not reptiles! In the very warm Jurassic period, only cold blooded creatures really thrived, mammals struggled - while dinosaurs grew to a colossal size, mammals were no bigger than rats and were burrowing underground to keep cool.

It was only when the climate cooled that mammals became bigger and reptiles shrunk and have to stick to the warm parts of the world because they can't heat their blood by themselves.

We dominate the planet at the moment, but I'm not sure we'd evolve quickly enough (shrinking our mass) if the world heated. More likely we're looking at an extinction event for the majority.

The minority can always try to rely on technology to save them - but as the population shrinks that becomes problematic. Only about 1% have the brains to invent and develop technology, but because there's 6 billion of us, that 1% is big enough to invent the entire world's needs. Once you get population shrinkage, you shrink the number of brains, and all you need is for a few intelligent families to get wiped out for the rest of the population to struggle and slip into a dark age.

Really, trying to mitigate the climate now is the less risky option.

 

[blank_czech]

The World's Top Scientists: Take Action Now On Climate Change | Business Insider

 

[Fatbat]

Could you kindly point out any members of that group? I can't say I've spent a lot of time reading various message boards and comment sections on the subject, but I can't remember seeing anyone, at anytime, anywhere ever making that statement. Are you sure that's an actual position that people take?

So you're saying we have an effect on the environment, but don't have an effect on global warming?

 

[Kiopa_Matt]

This entire debate about climate change is now officially retarded. It's somewhat the same as debating whether or not immunizations are important, or if evolution is real. It's just dumb.

Yes, climate change is real. You don't even have to believe scientific studies anymore. Just turn the TV on. And yes, the mass majority of the worldwide scientific community agrees that it's due to human intervention.

 

[titanium777]

Political tension is more of a threat to us than climate change.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

So you're saying we have an effect on the environment, but don't have an effect on global warming?

Um...wut? Where did you see that?

 

[Moxie]

So it's not natural for species to die out?

There were home runs in baseball before steroids, also.


Background extinction rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Extinctions are a normal part of the evolutionary process, and the background extinction rate is a measurement of “how often” they naturally occur. Normal extinction rates are often used as a comparison to present day extinction rates, to illustrate the higher frequency of extinction today than in all periods of non-extinction events before it."

But climate change is said to account for only a relatively small amount of the human posed threat..

 

[Suddenly_Ass]

 

[TrafficGoldmine]

It is just the earth doing what it has been doing for millennium after millennium
The wobbling of the earths magnetic field create tears in the upper atmosphere - creating the rapid melting of the caps we see today & it is just apart of a natural cycle - to say man caused it i think is irresponsible - man def. does not do anything to slow the process though I will say that - but what we are seeing now is just a giant chain reaction of natural events - some have chosen to exploit it the same way people build niche sites telling the consumer what they want to hear in order to get that sale at the end of the day Its all just marketing at the end of the day - once you see through the b.s. it is less scary than it is being portrayed

 

[-joe-]

Behead those who insult climate change.

 

[kingofsp]

This entire debate about climate change is now officially retarded. It's somewhat the same as debating whether or not immunizations are important, or if evolution is real. It's just dumb.

Yes, climate change is real. You don't even have to believe scientific studies anymore. Just turn the TV on. And yes, the mass majority of the worldwide scientific community agrees that it's due to human intervention.

This is definitely not an argument. I read it twice to make sure.

 

[erect]

There is exactly one way to control our environment ... create our own

Anything less and we're just another brick in the wall.