Duck Dynasty Publicity Stunt?

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'Duck Dynasty' Dad Suspended Following Anti-Gay Remarks | Yahoo TV - Yahoo TV

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Duck Dynasty merchandise is all over Walmart and this story comes out during the last week of Christmas shopping.


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I would really like to hear what any normal, gay webmaster, duck dynasty fan has to say about his own fucking opinion. As a gay, I would probably just chuckle, knowing how many fags are still going to be able to be fags, even after his opinion.
 
Nothing new. A&E also tried to get them to stop praying in Jesus name at the end of each episode ( he didn't ). The editors take that part out a lot.

I commend him for standing for his beliefs. It's unfortunate, however, that the headline of that article as well as many paraphrasing said article will state that he was "bashing homosexuality" and "anti-gay remarks". He wasn't bashing any group of people - but stating his beliefs. Last time I checked this is America and we're allowed to do that.

Which if you read the entire article you will see was not the case. He wasn't pointing out homosexuality - but grouping it with other sins. sin is sin. He continued to say that all sin leads to death. It's seriously wrong that all people will remember is the headline "anti gay remarks". Out of the entire interview that's all that the media "took from it". Take a look at this:
"I myself am a product of the '60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior," the TV star said in a statement released by A&E Wednesday. "My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other." - Phil Robertson
If they didn't have such an agenda against true Christianity than the article could have been, "Duck Dynasty Dad loves all people -regardless of beliefs". How bout that? What a change in perception and agenda can do..

The same exact thing happened to the Salvation Army a while back for "anti gay" stuff. All the headlines stated to "Salvation Army starts war with gays".

That's what people will remember. Guess what though? If they read the actual article and not some gossip media junk, readers will see that..
"In mid-June 2012, gay pop star Darren Hayes made comments critical of the Salvation Army's stance regarding homosexuality, referencing that organization's position statement on the subject"

Who started that "war" - it wasn't the Salvation Army. Same with this Phil Robertson stuff.. out of the interview his disagreement on homosexualty was taken as anti-gay remarks. He wasn't bashing homosexuals, but is in returned removed because of his beliefs. A&E has been trying to get rid of him for a while because he doesn't fit their cookie-cutter.

All in all it's unfortunate that if someone doesn't agree with homosexuality that it automatically is labeled as all of this hate here and anti remarks there stuff. It's merely a disagreement and should be left as such.

Shoot, I have a gay uncle. My wife has a gay cousin. We love them just the same -but don't agree with the lifestyle because of our beliefs. It's not our place to judge them, that's God's job. :thumbsup:

I know I went full-retard there for a moment -but it's all good. I'm just extremely passionate about my beliefs and grow tired of this stuff. In the end we're all held accountable.

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I would really like to hear what any normal, gay webmaster, duck dynasty fan has to say about his own fucking opinion. As a gay, I would probably just chuckle, knowing how many fags are still going to be able to be fags, even after his opinion.

Thank you! You're right on with that! It's just his opinion and should be treated as such. :thumbsup:
 
Last time I checked this is America and we're allowed to do that.

He absolutely has every right to state his bumblefuck opinions or beliefs. No one is stopping him from doing that. A&E is simply not providing him with the platform to do it at this time, as is their right because they aren't a government institution and are not bound by freedom of speech.

Advertisers pay their bills. Advertisers generally don't pour money into shows that create this type of controversy. A&E also has other shows and many of those shows have viewerships containing a large number of LGBT viewers. If that community is upset, A&E risks losing that community's viewership concerning their other programming. That costs them money across the board, not just where the DD franchise is concerned.

Phil's right to speak his opinions are not more important to A&E than their advertising revenue is to them. That's the bottom line.

As someone who frequents this particular forum and presumably considers himself a marketer, I find it odd that you don't seem to understand this. He created a negative controversy. Sometimes controversy is good, but in this case it isn't going to draw in any more viewers across a larger platform. But allowing him to continue on with the show at this time has a fairly good chance of causing a significant portion of A&E viewers to jump ship and stop watching multiple programs on the network.

I'll never understand why anyone who makes a fortune based on their celebrity doesn't have a PR person sitting in the room when they give an interview so they can cut this type of shit off before it turns into this.
 
I commend him for standing for his beliefs. It's unfortunate, however, that the headline of that article as well as many paraphrasing said article will state that he was "bashing homosexuality" and "anti-gay remarks". He wasn't bashing any group of people - but stating his beliefs.
You kidding homie?
Lumping gays in with drunks, swindlers, and prostitutes is bashing them. They are beliefs of his, but that's because he believes anti-gay things.

Last time I checked this is America and we're allowed to do that.
Yeah, and it's not the government stopping him. It's his employer. The bill of rights are restrictions on the government, not restrictions on the people.

Which if you read the entire article you will see was not the case. He wasn't pointing out homosexuality - but grouping it with other sins.
Significant parts of the rest of the comment was about homosexuality, which makes it pretty clear they were the focus of that grouping.

All in all it's unfortunate that if someone doesn't agree with homosexuality that it automatically is labeled as all of this hate here and anti remarks there stuff. It's merely a disagreement and should be left as such.
This is ridiculous. Let's try and move this to other contexts to make that clear.
  • I disagree with your blondeness
  • I disagree with your blackness
  • I disagree with your left handedness
  • I disagree with your nose.
  • I disagree with your Polishness.
Doesn't work so well, right?
Because "gay" is not a fucking ethical or moral position. It is a trait. You no more "agree" with gayness than you can "agree" with fast wind or lumpy bagels.
 
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As someone who frequents this particular forum and presumably considers himself a marketer, I find it odd that you don't seem to understand this. He created a negative controversy. Sometimes controversy is good, but in this case it isn't going to draw in any more viewers across a larger platform. But allowing him to continue on with the show at this time has a fairly good chance of causing a significant portion of A&E viewers to jump ship and stop watching multiple programs on the network.

I completely agree with you, mate. I do understand from a marketing standpoint why A&E would remove him. For me personally though, even as a marketer, there are some things I won't do just "for the money". For example, although I hear there is great money in the adult marketing space, I would never touch that.

Marketing = money. But for me morals > money. Call my crazy but I would rather know that "I did the right thing" according to my beliefs than I would have more money.
I appreciate your reply on the matter. When looking at it from the perspective of being an audience.. If I don't agree with how something is portrayed I simply don't watch it. Doesn't mean that I try to get that stuff out of it.

Take for example the show Modern Family ( which looks hilarious, btw ) is aired on ABC - but I don't watch it because it doesn't align with my beliefs. However, ABC also airs Agents of SHIELD -which I love! I don't get all mad at ABC because they air the other show. I just watch the one I enjoy :)
 
You kidding homie?
Lumping gays in with drunks, swindlers, and prostitutes is bashing them. They are beliefs of his, but that's because he believes anti-gay things.

Nay, not kidding :) It's obvious you and I have different opinions on that matter, and that's cool by me -I respect that. Neither of us is going to be able to convince the other to change their opinion. You made some good points, but I'm not here for a debate ;)

:edit: didn't mean to double post. I can't merge this and previous reply.
 
I'm glad Duck Dynasty is successful since it means there is still a healthy, very viable part of the population that is straight up fucking retarded and ready to be exploited for my monetary gain, and that is profoundly inspiring to me.

On the other hand, I wish I could enjoy the show or understand why otherwise intelligent people seem to like it. I guess there's nothing to get really, just like there was nothing to get with The Jersey Shore, you just watch it to see what they'll do next.

Maybe red necks/white trash like Duck Dynasty because it speaks to them while normal people watch it to see how the other part of America lives, I don't know. It's a great sign they're doing so well though because it means white trash culture is alive and well, so much fucking money to be made with this demographic.
 
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A&E has been trying to get rid of him for a while because he doesn't fit their cookie-cutter.

Their primary goal is dollar signs. I doubt A&E was in a rush to get rid of a main person from one of the most watched cable shows in history.

Reality tv is filled "controversial" characters. A&E has a show about drug addicts and had one about Mafia John Gotti's daughter.

MTV's the Real World has more than once put gay and anti-gay people in a house together.

I know I went full-retard there for a moment -but it's all good. I'm just extremely passionate about my beliefs and grow tired of this stuff.

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I can't believe you guys are writing multiple paragraphs about this shit.

I can't believe I wrote anything about you writing multiple paragraphs.

WE ARE ALL GAY.
 
But allowing him to continue on with the show at this time has a fairly good chance of causing a significant portion of A&E viewers to jump ship and stop watching multiple programs on the network.

I don't think so; it's not like he said that all gays should be stoned to death and it's not like what he said was aired on the channel. Like you said, losing advertisers would probably be the main concern.
 
^^ Just started watching me some Modern Family...only because of the twins.

As for Phil's comments. Someone's always looking to be offended. It just seems to me that the homozegjewels are looking to be offended more often than any other group.
 
Nay, not kidding :) It's obvious you and I have different opinions on that matter, and that's cool by me -I respect that. Neither of us is going to be able to convince the other to change their opinion. You made some good points, but I'm not here for a debate ;)
You posted in a forum called "Shooting the Shit". That's kinda implies here to debate.
I don't think I could change your opinions on gays as a whole, but hopefully something we can lock down is the relatively obvious absurdity of the idea of "disagreeing" with gayness. It's nothing but a faulty cover for "dislike".
 
Duck Dynasty is actually pretty good (relative).
I live in Louisiana and can't watch reality shows, especially the ones that come out of here but that one is better.

Mostly bc it's a family of intelligent folk that run a very successful business and do their best to live the simple life. I've only seen a couple episodes in passing, but I do understand why a lot of people like it.

As for the comments, who gives a shit. Neither party is wrong. A&E can do whatever the fuck they want and the dude can think/say whatever he wants.

It's annoying everyone I know has to take a side on this issue.