Solve this disagreement between the wife and I, who's right?

Who is being unreasonable?

  • Your wife is being unreasonable

    Votes: 138 89.6%
  • You are being unreasonable

    Votes: 16 10.4%

  • Total voters
    154
Yeah but honestly, I did not realize that the fight was going to be 4pm local time for you. That's got to be a terrible time to watch a fight. Might as well bring your Bro to the reunion with you, have a good time and show your wife that you are the better person, then watch the fight with your bro in the evening and even go out after the fight for a few. It would be way more relaxing that way. Otherwise, if you F off for 3 hours to watch the fight while the reunion is on, you will be thinking about the potential shit storm thats brewing with your wife the whole time, and you will be rushing to get back.

I can see your point of view. I am not certain because my wife wasn't certain of the family schedule, but I believe that at 4pm they are going to be at an amusement park. So everyone will be riding the rides, etc... I don't see how leaving an amusement park is a big deal.
 


Which ever one came first. If you had the birthday scheduled before the family thing then its reasonable to leave for it. If you knew about the family thing before the birthday party then its not.

We started arranging for my brother to come as soon as the fight date was known, which was a few months ago, it happens to also fall on his birthday (and we usually, but not all of the time, visit each other on birthday's anyway). At this time my wife knew that her family thing was sometime in Sept, but she didn't know when (her Grandparents had already scheduled it, but she didn't know for what dates). Just yesterday she finally called them and got the date.
 
Obviously you're right but if you want to have sex in the next 6 months then obviously she's right.
 
I can see your point of view. I am not certain because my wife wasn't certain of the family schedule, but I believe that at 4pm they are going to be at an amusement park. So everyone will be riding the rides, etc... I don't see how leaving an amusement park is a big deal.

Bro, stick with me on this one because I have a crazy wife too. PVR the fight. Do whatever she wants you to do regarding the reunion in the afternoon. Bring your brother along as it could be fun for him too. Then ENJOY the fights in the evening.

I guarantee you if you take off to watch em, you will not enjoy them because that annoying wife voice will be in your head the whole time.
 
Bro, stick with me on this one because I have a crazy wife too. PVR the fight. Do whatever she wants you to do regarding the reunion in the afternoon. Bring your brother along as it could be fun for him too. Then ENJOY the fights in the evening.

I guarantee you if you take off to watch em, you will not enjoy them because that annoying wife voice will be in your head the whole time.

Oh, I would enjoy it, and definitely block her out during the fight. It's the drive back that I'd start thinking, lol. But ya, I get what you are saying. Seems viable to me.
Although the way she sounded, she may not care if it's 4pm, or 9pm, etc.... she may just be dead set on her way.

Time will tell....I've got about 7-weeks until then, so I'll definitely post back here with what finally happens.
 
You're approaching this all wrong. She's not a guy. Women don't respond to rational arguments in emotional situations.

I have a wife who is possible the most rational person you could meet at work, but when shit like this crops up, she's a fucking fruitloop.

Luckily, this fact makes them remarkably easy to outmaneuvre, if you just think a few steps ahead. Here's how I'd run it:


Call up her Grandparents, tell 'em how much you are looking forward to the reunion, and then explain the brother situation. Ask if it's OK, because you didn't want to offend them, but it would mean a lot to him.

They will (ofc) say yes. You can tell your wife then that you didn't want to upset her GPs, so you called them to check, and they insisted that see your brother.

Having done that, you've now placed your wife in an impossible situation.

She can either let you go see your brother.

Or she can carry on insisting, and have to explain to GPs why she wouldn't let you see your brother, and look like a shrew at the reunion.

Now, the important thing here is how you break this to your wife.

DO NOT FRAME IT IN AS I WAS RIGHT AND YOU WERE WRONG.

The key with women is to let them feel that they're right, whilst doing whatever the fuck you want with your life.

So you say "You know, you were right honey, I was being thoughtless about this."

(pause).

"So I called up you GPs to check that it was ok, because I really wouldn't want to upset them or your family. And they insisted that I go."

Try not to smirk when you do this as it will ruin the whole effort.


WF gold. +rep
 
I've been in a similar boat, insane girl, pretty much no friends, worked from home meaning we were together 24/7.. We weren't married and it was only 2 years so I may be way off base but it really sounds like you need to stand up for yourself man.
My experience is that most women that are irrational know deep down that they are being stupid so although they get pissed off when you make a stand they respect you more, get over it and every once in a blue moon they'll even apologize for the way they acted and want to make it up to you. Otherwise they just see you as a child and use sex as a bargaining chip.

What really makes me wonder though is how after 11 years of marriage and being around each other that much you aren't in a position where you can compromise with your wife or at least know how to talk her into seeing the situation from your perspective. Guess every relationship is different though.
 
I've been in a similar boat, insane girl, pretty much no friends, worked from home meaning we were together 24/7.. We weren't married and it was only 2 years so I may be way off base but it really sounds like you need to stand up for yourself man.
My experience is that most women that are irrational know deep down that they are being stupid so although they get pissed off when you make a stand they respect you more, get over it and every once in a blue moon they'll even apologize for the way they acted and want to make it up to you. Otherwise they just see you as a child and use sex as a bargaining chip.

What really makes me wonder though is how after 11 years of marriage and being around each other that much you aren't in a position where you can compromise with your wife or at least know how to talk her into seeing the situation from your perspective. Guess every relationship is different though.

Well, I think I may be able to. I just found out about this yesterday....haven't sat down and talked in detail with her about it.
 
Ya, it's a trip for her family. But the location just happens to be about a 25 minute drive from our house.
Wife wants to drag you through a three-day marathon of family and visiting? Fuck that, are they Middle Easterners or something? I've received family invites like that. I told them can't come, so sad. You can call me antisocial.

Spend four or five hours with the grandparents, go see your brother and then you're done. Two days saved. Get back to work.
 
If the situation was reversed, and your family was coming, did you ask her if she would want to spend 3 hours with her brother/sister/significant_family_member on their bday?
 
If the situation was reversed, and your family was coming, did you ask her if she would want to spend 3 hours with her brother/sister/significant_family_member on their bday?

My brother is going to be right here, he's coming from out of town.
Of course if her family were going to be in town, and I already had something scheduled, I wouldn't care if she skipped out by herself for a few hours. I don't see it as a big deal.
 
I'm going to add to this for fairness - the letting other people be right strategy doesn't just apply to women. It applies to 99% of people you have disagreements with.

Most people place more value on being "right" than anything else. If you realise how totally unimportant it actually is, your life gets a whole lot easier.

@Rebecca, I'm with you... I don't think that women need to be treated "like children". In fact I don't agree that children benefit from being treated "like children" either.
 
I tell people all the time that the person they think my wife is is merely the tip of the iceberg. The perfect little 10% they get is nothing compared to the bat shit crazy 90% I live with. Amateursurgeon clearly "gets it" and your answer lies in his post.

Also read everything here and here, and for the love of Jesus H. Christ grow some balls..
 
As a female member of WF, I am always amused by these types of threads. Where do you guys find these insecure (can't look at other womens boobs), clingy (can't live life independent of you) women?

So, you and your brother had scheduled this well in advance, but now that the date conflicts with her family reunion your wife wants you to tell him he's on his own; even though you'll only be gone a few hours?

<sarcasm>Nope, she's not being unreasonable at all.</sarcasm>
 
1. Calling the GP's could backfire as your wife will tell you that you betrayed her and violated her trust.
2. Maybe your wife is uncomfortable with her relatives or maybe a single relative and wants/needs you there for support. Knowing you "will be there" is important - women need the security. - for this you could have your bro go to the reunion and watch it in a room.

One thing is certain - from a male perspective she is being unreasonable. I have found that when my wife seems unreasonable it is because there is more to the situation than I think.

You need to find out the underlying issue:
1. Trust
2. your "being there"
3. security
4. doing something "for her" which is an offshoot of needing more security in the marriage

There is some reason she needs you there - find out, then address the issue. Then you will be able to go to your brothers, or have him come over. There are probably other relatives that will want to watch the fight too.

If you cannot figure out how to communicate and uncover unsaid issues, then you are in store for a lot of marital problems.

In the end, your wife needs to know she comes first. Not your family. That may be one of the underlying issues - if her family rarely gets together - does she feel it is always "your family"?