The Debate the just ended......



Heard Glen Beck this morning saying he agreed with a lot RP says - but his position on Iran was a deal breaker.

I was just alarmed at how old he looked on the part I watched. As much as I'm a RP fan, the age is going to be a big issue at this point.
 
Vote for him anyway - if you don't stand up for the person's views and record that you think is best - you are just keeping the system sucking.

Disagree. I'm voting for the leader of a country, not just a set of ideals. I need to have confidence that my leader isn't going to forget to put on his pants before he goes to meet with the Prime Minister. Paul gives off a "doddering old grandpa" vibe that isn't going to inspire confidence that he's a strong leader. That will absolutely kill his chances outside of the Internet where everyone loves him and shows up to skew the Polls.

Look, I'd like someone with something very close to his set of ideals to win, but if any of you were old enough to vote in the last election, all you have to do is look back at that and see where this is all headed. It's not like this is something new and he's never run before.
 
This is Ron Pauls last chance. He better start taking roids or something.
If this is what old age looks like on roids sign me up. (stallone 63)
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Kidding aside. I just wast amped with the republicans. Obama might take this one again. Its not about good ideas these days, people are tv brain washed.
 
Disagree. I'm voting for the leader of a country, not just a set of ideals. I need to have confidence that my leader isn't going to forget to put on his pants before he goes to meet with the Prime Minister. Paul gives off a "doddering old grandpa" vibe that isn't going to inspire confidence that he's a strong leader. That will absolutely kill his chances outside of the Internet where everyone loves him and shows up to skew the Polls.

Look, I'd like someone with something very close to his set of ideals to win, but if any of you were old enough to vote in the last election, all you have to do is look back at that and see where this is all headed. It's not like this is something new and he's never run before.

I can't help but agree with your outlook. However, EVERY other choice I see just seems to be a shill for the lobbyists and it's time to speak out against that. Your obligation as a citizen should be to vote for your beliefs no matter what you think the end result is.

The only REAL way you can speak out in regards to politics is your vote, and your wallet. The bad news is the corporations have bigger wallets and can donate more than you can by law.

Hell the media and politicians have been trying to get you to just vote for the lesser of two evils for generations. How's it working out for us?

I know RP won't win and I'll be voting for him anyway. If enough people that DO agree with him do the same, he'd win.
 
Ron Paul had the best answers of the debate and is a TRUE Republican that represents limited government and liberty.

PS: I want to punch Rick Santorum in the face.
PPS: All you who are hating on Rick Perry for his Christian faith - I will pray for you.
 
I can't help but agree with your outlook. However, EVERY other choice I see just seems to be a shill for the lobbyists and it's time to speak out against that. Your obligation as a citizen should be to vote for your beliefs no matter what you think the end result is.

The only REAL way you can speak out in regards to politics is your vote, and your wallet. The bad news is the corporations have bigger wallets and can donate more than you can by law.

Hell the media and politicians have been trying to get you to just vote for the lesser of two evils for generations. How's it working out for us?

I know RP won't win and I'll be voting for him anyway. If enough people that DO agree with him do the same, he'd win.

I guess our definitions of leading are different. Would I vote for some other fuck bag that spews the same shit and has no ideas but has the potential to be a better leader? Fuck no, because shit will never change and they'll just keep doing the same retarded shit we keep doing, which obviously isn't working! What is it called when you keep doing the same thing, expecting a different result? It's call insanity. You can not have change, if you do not break the mold, it's that simple.
 
You all have the DUMBEST reasons to not vote for Ron Paul. Hes too old, he looks weird, he comes of eccentric.

Shut the fuck up, all these reasons have nothing to do with running the country they way it should be run.

If you say you are not voting for Ron Paul, at least name a valid reason instead of all this kindergarden pussy shit you are spewing.
 
Ron Paul is the only one who is in this presidential race because he gives a shit about this country, there is so much fluff in politics its disgusting, no one else, Rep or Dem, adds any real value to anything they do or say.
 
Because as of today, unless something changes, he has zero chance of winning and I do not feel like throwing away a vote.

<stupid sheeple comment>FUCK YOU for being a dumbass. This is pure idiocy. Your either a good troll or a complete fucking gutless douchebag. Have fun being a debt slave you fucking piece of trash.</stupid sheeple comment>

The sheep will continue to be fleeced until they become aware that they are being harvested. You sir are the crop. Again, fuck you for being an idiot.
 
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The sheep will continue to be fleeced until they become aware that they are being harvested. You sir are the crop. Again, fuck you for being an idiot.

I said as of today, as it stands, he cannot win.

If something changes I will look into him as a candidate.

If you think you can curse him into the presidency then go ahead and try. If you believe that he is the best candidate then put forth your reasons, explain why he is the best, show the world how a candidate that does not have mass appeal can win.

Many people tried a revolutionary candidate with Ross Perot and they ended up getting Clinton. Tell me why Paul is not a vote for Obama.
 
I said as of today, as it stands, he cannot win.

If something changes I will look into him as a candidate.

If you think you can curse him into the presidency then go ahead and try. If you believe that he is the best candidate then put forth your reasons, explain why he is the best, show the world how a candidate that does not have mass appeal can win.

Many people tried a revolutionary candidate with Ross Perot and they ended up getting Clinton. Tell me why Paul is not a vote for Obama.

How would it be a vote for Obama if Paul is the Republican nominee?
 
To go with the "only vote if they can win" side of the argument. There IS NO current candidate that can get the independent vote on the republican side OTHER than Ron Paul.

Do you think Romney will beat Obama?

Do you think any of the right wing christian alternatives can beat Obama?

I sure don't... and most of them will get chewed up in the first debate.

Now really think hard and name me the republican candidate that could change things? I can't think of another one.

Would romney give us 4 more years of malaise? I think so. He might 'look good', and 'sound good', but he sure isn't the man to fix a country in decline. That's going to take something new. Anything else is just sticking your head in the sand.
 
Ron Paul would utterly trash Obama in a debate, it would all end up being Economics, and as we know, that's not Barack's forté.
 
How would it be a vote for Obama if Paul is the Republican nominee?

Yeah Yeah - details. I forgot I was on WF. I can say stuff like that other places on the net and not get called on it.

If the RP crazies mobilize and get Paul as the candidate he will get trounced in the election. Therefore a vote for Paul in the primary is a vote for Obama. (what do you think? recovery?)

To go with the "only vote if they can win" side of the argument. There IS NO current candidate that can get the independent vote on the republican side OTHER than Ron Paul.

Do you think Romney will beat Obama?

Do you think any of the right wing christian alternatives can beat Obama?

I sure don't... and most of them will get chewed up in the first debate.

Now really think hard and name me the republican candidate that could change things? I can't think of another one.

Would romney give us 4 more years of malaise? I think so. He might 'look good', and 'sound good', but he sure isn't the man to fix a country in decline. That's going to take something new. Anything else is just sticking your head in the sand.

I think the that no one can screw up an election like the republicans. RP included.

So far Romney has no fire and I doubt he can get the job done he strikes me as a half ass quitter. RP comes off like a smart ass know it all and has no mass appeal, Gingrich is not likeable and has baggage, and I do not know the rest of the field.

I will have to look into RP I suppose since I can imagine more of these WF threads will be on the horizon in the near future.

Gary Johnson he has his problems but at least he took down his previous BS comments on environmentalism. At least that shows he is learning.
 
Ron Paul would utterly trash Obama in a debate, it would all end up being Economics, and as we know, that's not Barack's forté.

The problem is, it ain't most voters' forte, either.

Obama's strength is pandering to the crowd. When he's on, he's really on. That's what got him elected in the first place. Even though a lot of folks are finally seeing through his bullshit (too late guys, too late), they're still motivated by their emotions.

That's trouble.