This is scary
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How have you decided I'm a liberal? Because everyone who doesn't toe the line 80% of the time is your enemy? Is liberal the new nigger?
There is a difference, you must be disregarding all past history. Islam at this current time in history is much more rife with terrorism than Christianity, I agree.
Yes, at this current time in history. And this is where the crusades actually become relevant. Christians did it in the past, Muslims are doing it now.
It's not ignorant at all. Radical Christianity and radical Islam are equally dangerous. It's a perfect calibration of my fairness meter. The number of radical Islams in the world is greater than the number of radical Christians so more terrorism is done in the name of Islam than Christians, yes. But, that doesn't change the fact that both forms of extremism are equally dangerous.
When I make the comment Christians kill doctors. It was a sweeping generalization, I know, it was meant to be a response to the sweeping generalization that Muslims are all suicide bombers. They are both sweeping generalizations. But the truth remains that both religions do have their extremists. I was fighting a generalization with a generalization and you made my point, it's fucktarded.
If the majority of the US became atheist today, it wouldn't change anything, you're correct we'd still be fighting wars.
But the reason we'd still be fighing those wars is because in the middle east extreme religion would still exist. An extreme religion that still hates us. Which is why we're in this war in the first place. The US could be 100% atheist and still have no peace because we would still be combating extreme religion in other countries.
Agreed.
This is like saying lung cancer is equally dangerous in all individuals without considering what the leading cause of lung cancer is. People who have never smoked in their life sometimes die of lung cancer, and yes, for them lung cancer is just as bad as for those who got it from smoking.
Well, lung cancer is equally dangerous. Like you say.
It doesn't matter whether you smoked or however you acquired it. It can still kill just as easily.
Just like it doesn't matter how you reach the extremism. You can reach it either through Chrisitanity, Islam, or any other religion. It's still equally dangerous.
We're comparing how many people got lung cancer (extremism) through smoking (Islam) to how many people got lung cancer (extremism) through some other means (any other religion).
Which would make radical Islam more dangerous. It's more dangerous because there is an extremely higher percentage of violent radicals. They are not equally dangerous.
I don't want to exclude atheism.
I can take atheism pretty extreme too.
And yes atheism can lead to killing. (cites all historical examples here)
Practically and in reality, yes, solely because there are a greater number of them that exist in the world. (at this time in history)
But radical Islam is the lung cancer.
They reached this lung cancer by smoking Islamic religion.
You can reach this lung cancer by smoking other religions too (Christianity).
You can also get lung cancer by not smoking at all (atheism).
However you got lung cancer, by either Islam or Christianity, the lung cancer itself (extremism) is still equally dangerous.
Atheism, which is trying to lower the risk by not smoking (religion) can still get the lung cancer. So don't get me wrong.
(Islam is a "greater risk" cigarette than the Christian cigarette, but all cigarettes are bad. You're taking a risk by smoking cigarettes at all.)
Actually in my analogy cancer would be terrorist activity while the cause would be radical islam or other causes. You can be an extremist and not be violent, but that's another conversation.
An no, if you look at it in terms of a frequency distribution, you can't say they're equally dangerous. You can maybe say they're equally dangerous given they both occur, but the frequency at which they occur matters.
Seriously, considering the rate of occurrence to help determine risk or threat is just using solid 4th grade logic.
Lol I always thought you were a liberal and was just as surprised as Popeye to hear you sayin some of that shit, but this line is funny as fuck.
I did make a mistake in equating radical islam = cancer.
However, the logic still holds.
birth or atheism (you aren't smoking yet) < religion (when you decide to start smoking) < religious extremism (when you're addicted) < violence (cancer, death)
Just don't decide to start smoking is my ultimate message. (The Christian flavor or the Islamic flavor or any flavor.)
There is no safe cigarette. It's a myth.
Yes, if you look at it in terms of frequency distribution more people that "smoke" the Islamic "cigarette" are likely to acquire "cancer". Islam is more dangerous than the Christianity cigarette (the people that manufacture Christian cigarettes have put better tar filters in) but smoking cigarettes (religion) is taking a risk in the first place.
SUP3RNOVA said:
UnripeArbiter said:
You first admit you're wrong (last quote above), and THEN you go back and try to defend the original argument to which you just seceded to (entire cigarette argument).
They are NOT equally dangerous.
It's a shame once again the points you make have nothing to do with the actual argument.
I'll smoke "religious" cigarettes my entire life and won't ever be violent because of it.
I'm sorry you don't follow the logic.
That sounds like someone who is addicted to cigarettes and is in denial. "I won't ever get cancer."
Your cigarette (religion) has a better tar filter (it has adapted to modern society). That's it.
There is no safe cigarette (religion). It's a myth.
Because we don't talk foreign policy or terrorism much here. In another forum I get accused of being a flag waving, redneck conservative.
Nobody else seems to follow it either, I don't see too many people taking your side. I'm also not the only one to call you ignorant.
There are many safe religions, the people that interpret them are the one's that are unsafe.
You're getting so much into the analogy used that it's actually comical. I'm addicted to religious cigarettes? Addicted? Haha.
